2600 on Omega 12?

[Snwbrdr1]

can my 12 take it? I know, I know, I'm already wanting to upgrade my T1500-1bd. Looking at AB 120.1. I need it louder:p am i going about it the wrong way? should I be thinking 15" or 2 12's.
Thanks

[xander_crews]

it'll be fine

[brtnboarder3241]

^^

I agree it would be fine.. those omegas can take mass power..

[Snwbrdr1]

thats what I thought but, woofer area. should I be looking at more woofer area to more spl?

[xander_crews]

well with a hoe I would have done 2 18's to start off with but I don't have to worry about space

[brtnboarder3241]

well with a hoe I would have done 2 18's to start off with but I don't have to worry about space
x2
I agree and I also dont have to worry.. will soon have an 18" in my blazer

[terra]

You should definitely just give me the hoe for a weekend and be happy with the results.
2 15"s or 18"s. I've got 8 Kinetik 16v's here. I could build you a wicked hoe system.

[Snwbrdr1]

You should definitely just give me the hoe for a weekend and be happy with the results.
2 15"s or 18"s. I've got 8 Kinetik 16v's here. I could build you a wicked hoe system.
hahahaha, give ya the Hoe for tha weekend:thumbsup:. do I need to refi my house? what we talkin bout 2 g's with subs and new amp and box?:sad5:

[RidnClean]

haha, come grab a 2nd omega :thumbsup:

[terra]

hahahaha, give ya the Hoe for tha weekend:thumbsup:. do I need to refi my house? what we talkin bout 2 g's with subs and new amp and box?:sad5:

Umm, probably not quite that much. Especially if you sell your current setup...

[Snwbrdr1]

Umm, probably not quite that much. Especially if you sell your current setup...
I'll sell my 12 for 250 and my amp for 450, so we're looking at 7. Saw a 120.1 for 350 and 15" Omega . Now crx box for 15" and I'm set for another month.:runaround:

[terra]

I'll sell my 12 for 250 and my amp for 450, so we're looking at 7. Saw a 120.1 for 350 and 15" Omega . Now crx box for 15" and I'm set for another month.:runaround:

If you're gonna redo it, why not just go big and call it a day?

[Snwbrdr1]

If you're gonna redo it, why not just go big and call it a day?
well, my better half would flip if she knew how much I spend on "hobbie". Whats the specs on a 15?

[terra]

well, my better half would flip if she knew how much I spend on "hobbie". Whats the specs on a 15?

That's why you don't tell her...
You're obviously new to this hobby hahaha.


What specs do you need?

[Snwbrdr1]

rms on the 15 and peak if its been put to the test.

[brtnboarder3241]

rms on the 15 and peak if its been put to the test.
Woofer Size 15"
Fs 37Hz
Revc (ohms ) 2.00
Vas 65 Ltr
Xmax (mm) 19
BL 24
Qms 3.19
Qes 0.45
Qts 0.39
Sensitivity 1W/1m 92 dB

Magnet Diameter 9.0"
Coil Diameter 3.0"
Useable Throw 3.0"
Continuous Power 2000 W
Music Peak Power 5000 W
Mounting Depth 9"
Circle Cutout 14"
Overall Diameter 15.5"
Bolt Hole Circle 14.75"
Motor Depth 4.5"
Basket Depth 4.5"
Displacement 0.21 cu. ft.
Weight 62lbs

[xander_crews]

I would atleast do one 18 a used one will be cheap

[RidnClean]

rms is the same on all the subs.

[Snwbrdr1]

holy **** 5000 peak. I think a 15" would be nice. 18 a little too much maybe, dont mean to sound like a pu$$y. what amp pairs nicely with it?

[brtnboarder3241]

holy **** 5000 peak. I think a 15" would be nice. 18 a little too much maybe, dont mean to sound like a pu$$y. what amp pairs nicely with it?
::)

not saying it cant handle it by any means..just saying never look at peak

[ssackett]

I loved my 15 Omega!! Do it!

[RidnClean]

never ever look at peak

[RidnClean]

and 18 can handle the same as the 12 & 15.

so no real difference except cone area & price...and output of course.

[Snwbrdr1]

::)

not saying it cant handle it by any means..just saying never look at peak
roger that. I heard someone say that before and I've learnt my lesson.
What's on that " I told my wife" thread? I cant read it cause of special privelages not earned yet...hahaha. Oh and whats the Seattle boys doing this Sat. Lunch anyone? I'm coming that way.

[brtnboarder3241]

I havent really read all of it.. from what i understand toyota thundra (http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/member.php?u=873)
asked for a divorce and she took his house
(http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/member.php?u=873)

[terra]

roger that. I heard someone say that before and I've learnt my lesson.
What's on that " I told my wife" thread? I cant read it cause of special privelages not earned yet...hahaha. Oh and whats the Seattle boys doing this Sat. Lunch anyone? I'm coming that way.

Tundra's getting a divorce.

Umm we could probably all make an appearance..

[Snwbrdr1]

Tundra's getting a divorce.

Umm we could probably all make an appearance..
Nice, making a special "appearance". Where,when,how? Poor Tundra and his not so better half taking his house.

[xander_crews]

well you know you could turn the gain down until you get used to it I'm just trying to save you money over all I would have saved alot if I went big right away and didn't build up slowly

[Snwbrdr1]

well you know you could turn the gain down until you get used to it I'm just trying to save you money over all I would have saved alot if I went big right away and didn't build up slowly
oh dude I totally understand ya. all this upgrading is for the birds. I'm at least getting some install experience within the last couple months, but I'm starting a new job on the 8th and I will have zero time for my audio. That is of course, if I leave the hoe with Alex for a weekend:sad5:

[RidnClean]

lol.

leave your hoe...hoe.

[terra]

Just give me the keys!

[bumpin buick]

Woofer Size 15"
Fs 37Hz
Revc (ohms ) 2.00
Vas 65 Ltr
Xmax (mm) 19
BL 24
Qms 3.19
Qes 0.45
Qts 0.39
Sensitivity 1W/1m 92 dB

Magnet Diameter 9.0"
Coil Diameter 3.0"
Useable Throw 3.0"
Continuous Power 2000 W
Music Peak Power 5000 W
Mounting Depth 9"
Circle Cutout 14"
Overall Diameter 15.5"
Bolt Hole Circle 14.75"
Motor Depth 4.5"
Basket Depth 4.5"
Displacement 0.21 cu. ft.
Weight 62lbs


Please remember these are conservative ratings. We have several team members giving the subs 3500wrms+ daily and not having problems. Im giving mine 5kwrms each daily and you can ask anyone who has seen them, they could take a little more, again i do have a smaller box though so it allows for a little higher power handling but a 120.1 would do fine on a 15 or 18. Could probably be fine with a 200.1 as well if it were in your price range.

[Snwbrdr1]

:nod:Please remember these are conservative ratings. We have several team members giving the subs 3500wrms+ daily and not having problems. Im giving mine 5kwrms each daily and you can ask anyone who has seen them, they could take a little more, again i do have a smaller box though so it allows for a little higher power handling but a 120.1 would do fine on a 15 or 18. Could probably be fine with a 200.1 as well if it were in your price range.
Now you're talking, Im definately picking up what you're throwing down:nod: so what amp could I run on my 12 w/out any worries. Man I thought the T1500 would be alright, but sheesh. I didn't really know too much about the subs though. Why doesn't everyone buy these? and How come Alex does not own some deserted island somewhere and have employees bangin these subs out in factories? is it called selling out in this industry?:dontknow:

[terra]

:nod:
Now you're talking, Im definately picking up what you're throwing down:nod: so what amp could I run on my 12 w/out any worries. Man I thought the T1500 would be alright, but sheesh. I didn't really know too much about the subs though. Why doesn't everyone buy these? and How come Alex does not own some deserted island somewhere and have employees bangin these subs out in factories? is it called selling out in this industry?:dontknow:

Who says I don't own an island...?

[tc3k101]

Please remember these are conservative ratings. We have several team members giving the subs 3500wrms+ daily and not having problems. Im giving mine 5kwrms each daily and you can ask anyone who has seen them, they could take a little more, again i do have a smaller box though so it allows for a little higher power handling but a 120.1 would do fine on a 15 or 18. Could probably be fine with a 200.1 as well if it were in your price range.

true rms?

[terra]

true rms?

Doubt it.

[xander_crews]

before box rise and voltage drop but even after that still alot of power

[tc3k101]

Doubt it.

thought so, not knocking your subs terra but i really doubt any 3" coils can take a true 5000rms daily, they would thermally fail pretty quick. once again no disrespect to you or your subs.

[terra]

thought so, not knocking your subs terra but i really doubt any 3" coils can take a true 5000rms daily, they would thermally fail pretty quick. once again no disrespect to you or your subs.

You disrespectful *******!


Haha no really I'm usually the first guy to say that a 3" coil won't like 4k+ on music for ANY length of time. I don't understand why people want to run 5k daily to a 3" coil.

[tc3k101]

You disrespectful *******!


Haha no really I'm usually the first guy to say that a 3" coil won't like 4k+ on music for ANY length of time. I don't understand why people want to run 5k daily to a 3" coil.

haha good, i didnt know if it would turn well with you or not.
just the feeling of having the power on tap and being able to say i run x amount of power.

[terra]

haha good, i didnt know if it would turn well with you or not.
just the feeling of having the power on tap and being able to say i run x amount of power.

I think the majority of them assume because they have a 5kw amp, they are running 5,000 watts. No idea of imp. rise, voltage drops, power of music vs. sine waves...

[tc3k101]

I think the majority of them assume because they have a 5kw amp, they are running 5,000 watts. No idea of imp. rise, voltage drops, power of music vs. sine waves...
yeah, im still learning but i understand that most.

i guess having such a big amp is like having a 20" penis. the thought of having one is cool but would you ever really get to use all 20" of it? not likely :lol:

[terra]

yeah, im still learning but i understand that most.

i guess having such a big amp is like having a 20" penis. the thought of having one is cool but would you ever really get to use all 20" of it? not likely :lol:

Hahahaha what an analogy!
I'd say the Omega will take up to about 3300rms safely. Anything after that is going to be heavily user/enclosure dependent .

[xander_crews]

thats one of the reasons I over power my subs so much you just have to watch out on certain songs

[tc3k101]

Hahahaha what an analogy!
I'd say the Omega will take up to about 3300rms safely. Anything after that is going to be heavily user/enclosure dependent .
wow thats alot of power. my 4" coil cant even take that:dontknow:

[Snwbrdr1]

check you guys out all technical speaking. I just throw powa on mine and hope fer da best. One day I'll play my highs thruw der dat sub and create a hole nuw souynd.

[terra]

check you guys out all technical speaking. I just throw powa on mine and hope fer da best. One day I'll play my highs thruw der dat sub and create a hole nuw souynd.

Hahaha. Respond to my pm fool.

[tc3k101]

check you guys out all technical speaking. I just throw powa on mine and hope fer da best. One day I'll play my highs thruw der dat sub and create a hole nuw souynd.

haha when i first started installing the 1st stereo i ever did i ran the subs full range lol.

[brtnboarder3241]

haha when i first started installing the 1st stereo i ever did i ran the subs full range lol.
This made me :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[xander_crews]

you have a 4hp you better be able to run over 3300 to it

[terra]

wow thats alot of power. my 4" coil cant even take that:dontknow:

I would hope it can...unless you have an LMS, then I could see it.
you have a 4hp you better be able to run over 3300 to it

Depends

[tc3k101]

you have a 4hp you better be able to run over 3300 to it

nope this specific coil will not take the power, motor has no cooling to it at all so thermal failure would be in my future if i ran that power.

this specific motor isnt really designed for daily app

[Snwbrdr1]

haha when i first started installing the 1st stereo i ever did i ran the subs full range lol.
Bwhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, I knew a guy in high school that did that and had the box in his backseat of a Thunderbird. People really loved my beats, i mean his beats

[tc3k101]

Bwhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, I knew a guy in high school that did that and had the box in his backseat of a Thunderbird. People really loved my beats, i mean his beats

hey sometimes you gotta learn from your mistakes. im not afraid to admit it lol. i was a fkn tard

[terra]

We all started off somewhere.

[bumpin buick]

:nod:
Now you're talking, Im definately picking up what you're throwing down:nod: so what amp could I run on my 12 w/out any worries. Man I thought the T1500 would be alright, but sheesh. I didn't really know too much about the subs though. Why doesn't everyone buy these? and How come Alex does not own some deserted island somewhere and have employees bangin these subs out in factories? is it called selling out in this industry?:dontknow:

Not sure if you talking American Bass amps or any amp in general but I think with the correct electrical you could do a 150.1 or a 200.1 to the 12" no problem.

There is a lot of competition in the car audio market so no one brand can/will dominate. The Omega is an amazing sub but there will always be something out there with higher power handling or something that sounds better. We try to make a very well rounded SPL sub though and I think we have just that.

[RidnClean]

i'm planning on 5k :(

am i a bad person.

[xander_crews]

no you just will probably never see the full 5k on music or even tones unless you really **** with the design a whole bunch

[terra]

Let's get this done this weekend.