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Old 05-25-2012, 12:57 PM
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Alright guys, time to get this started as things are starting to be delivered and things are starting to be built/completed.


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2012 Setup:

2000 Dodge Durango 5.9 liter SLT Plus



Electrical:

Excessive Amperage 300 Amp Alternator charging @ 19.2 volts. Running an external rectifier to keep things cool and 50% more efficient throughout the RPM range. External rectifying allows for about 40-50 amps more throughout the range. Externally regulated to allow for voltage adjustment on the fly. Daily @ 19.2 volts.

PowerMaster voltage stepdown modules. 2 modules to reduce voltage to limit of vehicles 12 volt side.

Kinetik HC16V battery bank. 12 total will be the idea to keep amperage high. Project DB buss bars for both front and rear banks.

Tsunami/Stinger Hyperflex 1/0 power and ground wire. 6 runs front to back to limit resistance and amperage on each run.



Subwoofers & Sub Amps:

Four 15" Crossfire XS V.2 dual 2 subs
2 Crossfire XS-8X Amps (14,000 rms per amp @ 18 volts)



Midrange & Mid amps

Three sets of Hybrid Audio Technology Clarus 6.5s
Two Crossfire BMF6004 mid-amps



Vehicle:

Second Skin damplifier pro throughout the vehicle in 2-4 layers. Expanding foam and sludge to fill voids and open areas in panels.
Firestone helper air bags for the weight and for control.
False floor is 3/4 MDF bolted to the frame through bolts holes that were pre-existing



Enclosure:

4 15" Wall tuned @ 31 hz at C pillar.



The idea of this build is to not be permanent. The plan is to be able to remove the entire setup in a few hours with no real loss of interior quality. I am refraining from cutting and gluing to the main vehicle itself. Hence why you will see pieces being bolted together and clamped. This will effect the install in cosmetic ways and overall SPL throughout the build, but not so much to dis allow the WOW factor. I like playing with multiple ideas and different subs as a lot of you know



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Working on the false floor


Needed a dremel to take care of some of the small grinding and cutting.




5/8" All thread used to support and hold the false floor, there will be a total of six of these.


All the washers and bolts on 4 of the 6 all thread


First hole drilled, and was nervous about its location. But it was perfect!


All holes were perfect!!


All bolts and washers installed (two middles bolts are not done)


The way the all thread and nuts are I am going to have to cut sinks into the false floor and bottom of the box to get everything to lay flat.


8 Stinger 1/0 Platinum couplers to extend my wiring behind my wall.


3 sets of 25' RCAs




Very nice twist tights and quality!


Starting the dash tear down.


Gotta love all the wires


All 3 sets of RCAs ran throug the dash, had to do some cutting....which was a pain through that little hole with a dremel.




Plugged
in! BEST connection of an RCA I have played with! Took me a good few
pushes to fully get them on the plugs! They aren't going to unplug easy!

Deck and dash kit back in! Now for dash reassembly


Now I am trying to find a route for the RCAs down the passenger side. Since my drivers side is all taken up by the 6 runs of 1/0


Under the dash complete and down the side.



All
complete down the side and installed! WAY better than I thought it
would look like! It was a fight to get them flat and tight!



Down the back of my Durango and that is where I stopped until I pull the boxes and false floor back out.



Hybrid Audio Technology Clarus 6.5" mids! Some of the baddest mids on the market right now!!





5 15" Crossfire XS V.2 15" Dual 2 ohm subs.











Nate just getting done powder coating my next Alt from Excessive Amperage! 250 amps + 50 amps of additional current from the external rectifier running @ 18.6 volts daily!



Billet pulley and everything is complete! The rectifier stud on the back I had enlarged which was a bit custom. Nate is the man!!!



XSCORPION supplies arrived!! Wire and other doo-dads



Uninstalling the Focal 6.5s in each door.



HAT 6.5s installed in each door



HAT crossover, both amazing and beautiful!!



Marking where the holes will be for the tweeters in each panel



First panel tweeter hole drilled 1 7/8"
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154.1 @31 hz, 148.3 @ 16hz 30 second average (legal)
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Second one complete



Everything installed and ran, testing the speaker and crossover and then once the panel is ready to be installed the crossover will be secured in a proper location.



First tweeter in and set!



Both panels installed! Everything turned out real nice and sounds real nice!!



Getting ready to cut holes in the side of my inner panel for a place to run the 6 runs of 1/0 through.



Hole cut, and if your not looking at it straight in front, you wouldnt even notice it. I cut the hole inside a hole meant to be used for a grip when getting in the vehicle.



Wire ran through for test fitting, the wire WILL have a wire loom to cover it, so you wont see the 6 runs.



My nest of wires on the opposite side.



All ran and tucked away in the cubby hole, waiting for the boxes to be put it. Then final wire running!!



Hole cut in the front panel of the false floor so I can reach in and bolt/unbolt the bottom box from the false floor.



2 more spools of Sting 1/0 HPM Blue/Grey



EA Alt came in today as well! ALWAYS have a backup or a few backup voltage regulators.



Project DB Buss bars







Buss Bars installed!!



Resting voltage of 17.6 volts!!!! RIDICULOUS BATT TRAINING!!


Got everything ground down by a dremel. Ready to countersink the bottom box so it will sit flush with the false floor.


I used marking chalk to mark where the bolts were at.


Countersinks drilled and ready! Now lets pray I did it right!


All of the countersinks


PERFECTION!!! The box just fell onto the false floor, for once one of my measurements went correct!!


Drilling holes for the bolts to be put in to hold the bottom box to the false floor then to the frame.


First bolt in and secured!!! Now you guys see why I dirlled that HUGE ass hole in the front of my false floor. So I could reach my hand through and do the bolts. One thing to doing this slow is I am catching headaches ahead of time!


Drilling the rest of the holes.


All the bolts in and secured! Now its time to disassemble and paint everything!


This is pretty much how the bottom box will look until I can get the beauty panels in minus the fact that 2" wire loom is on the way to cover up the 1/0 runs.


Shortening up the floor on the battery box to bring it inline with my rear cargo hatch hinge line.


Cut!


Now why would I need 100lb Storm Door hinges


Hinges attached to the battery box


False floor piece extending from the box




Attached!!


Now you see why I had to hinge it? I HAVE to be able to get inside that cargo area as that is where the winch to get my spare tire out and all my emergency stuff is.


Got the lengths almost perfect!


Hole for the wire


Other side hole for rcas and mid wire


Testing the hole


RCAs through


Fit test and to see what it will look like. The batteries will be reversed from this position so that the + buss bars are on the inside instead of pointing out. AND YES, with all the batts the hinged battery box weighs roughly 360+ lbs. I have to use a long piece of steel and blocks to lift it up. Pain in the ass, but there was no other way and I am not going to be calling a tow truck @ 2 in the morning out in the middle of no-where because I cant change my flat tire. The other way is to just remove 3 of the batts to make it lighter which all in all will take about 10 minutes.


Stripping out the old 1/0 wiring


EA 225 amp alt out


New EA Alt compared to the old EA Alt. Granted the new alts stud sends directly to a rectifier, but still a BIG difference!


New EA Alt in


Getting ready to run all new Stinger 1/0 and heat shrink.


First of many done!


First runs complete
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Wire- 6 runs Stinger
Batts- Kinetik HC16V (7) - Juicebox LiFePO4 18V .5KW
154.1 @31 hz, 148.3 @ 16hz 30 second average (legal)

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Front buss bar bank for all the 1/0 connections


Got the durango back up and running and the important wires installed into the bank. I will be refinishing all the other wires once I correct a few problems I am having.


Got the wall in! Now to secure it!


Back of the wall


Secured


Seats up and it fits perfectly!!!


Drilling holes for the lead bolts


Air ratchet FTW!!!


First set of lead bolts in!!


Second set of lead bolts in


First subs ready to go in


First sub in


Both subs in


All four in!!


Partial battery rack and 5750.1 in to test. Running purely off of battery power I popped a 151.1 @ 37 hz.


Testing the 5750.1 @ .6 ohms . Do the math :twisted:


2" Wire loom for all the 1/0 runs


More Stinger 1/0 and 1/0 Couplers


New 1/0 runs ran


Setting the wire loom on the 6 runs


Front of my durango 99% complete!


Notching my false floor


In and complete!!!


New Kinetik Batteries in


HC2400 12 volt and HC16V 16 volt


Brass terminals


1 of 2 Crossfire XS-8X amps installed. It is not bolted directly to the wall. It has a dampening connection between the feet and the back panel of the wall to limit any vibration or flex from the box itself. Both amps have this done.
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Any ideas, thoughts or input guys would be appreciated! I am a seasoned veteran at this game but this is my first wall.... and besides a few small details I am doing this BY MYSELF! And lifting those damn boxes and subs by yourself is a PITA!!!
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Very nice job bro! When do you get those CF 8k's in? I am excited to see what those can do. Toad559 has the same exact setup in his truck and it is LOUD!! He is using DC 9.0's at the moment until his CF 8k's arrive but it shouldn't be much of a change when they arrive. One problem we have noticed is the surrounds dont hold up to well on his XS V.2's. Hopefully Rogers gets those new cones soon to address that problem.
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Looking good so far. I love these well documented builds. What rca are those?
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Ideas? Get a back brace lol. Looks sick.
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Very nice job bro! When do you get those CF 8k's in? I am excited to see what those can do. Toad559 has the same exact setup in his truck and it is LOUD!! He is using DC 9.0's at the moment until his CF 8k's arrive but it shouldn't be much of a change when they arrive. One problem we have noticed is the surrounds dont hold up to well on his XS V.2's. Hopefully Rogers gets those new cones soon to address that problem.
Thanks man!! I have seen some people having some problems. I myself havent had any problems with these subs even after doing a full minute on my two 18s with the 16K.

The CFs come in this next week

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Looking good so far. I love these well documented builds. What rca are those?
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Might have to grab me some of those RCA's they look beast. What about that loom where did you get it?
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My buddy Dave had been running the XS V2's in his wall for a year or two now doing 60+ with zero issues.

OP are you gonna use the 12v side to power the vehicle?
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