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I'm thinking about doing a 6th order in my suburban for my four mayhems. I have no clue about them what so ever when it comes to size tuning or design. I have heard that they are larger in some cases than 4th orders and I'd like to keep this in the c pillar area. Is this possible. I want something that's a bassrace/demo machine and also had the ability to put up some pretty good burp numbers. Any advice and help would be appreciated.
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I assume you are talking about a series tuned (quasi) 6th order, as that's what most people use, so I'll speak from there. I've never built a parallel tuned 6th.

The issue with them being larger lies in the rear (or inner) vented chamber. It has to be quite a bit bigger than a sealed chamber to get the proper tuning. It's the part that dictate low frequency cutoff (well, kinda), so it needs to be tuned really low. From that point there's several ways you can build the "front chamber, it's not as important to have a huge ratio like a 4th. In fact some people use a smaller front chamber than rear.

To see how big your rear chamber would need to be, remember that it needs to be tuned low (probably high to mid 20hz) and you can keep the port area really small. 5-8 in^2/ft^3 is what most people use.

In my experience, a 4th order with a large ratio will get louder than a smallish 6th order with a closer ratio.
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What size subs are you using ? A 6th order is going to be large , I have 2-18's and the box is 20+ cubes (5' long in my truck bed. )
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What size subs are you using ? A 6th order is going to be large , I have 2-18's and the box is 20+ cubes (5' long in my truck bed. )
Thanks both of you. Subs are 18s....i have about 57 deep 49 wide and 37-40 high
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And yes I'd prefer to do it all the way right with its appropriate proportions then try to squeeze it in there.
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Damn, that's almost 60 cubes. You'll be able to do a 6th order for (4) 18"s without issue. If you know the T/S parameters for those subs that will give you a good direction on what kind of enclosure to pursue.
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Damn, that's almost 60 cubes. You'll be able to do a 6th order for (4) 18"s without issue. If you know the T/S parameters for those subs that will give you a good direction on what kind of enclosure to pursue.
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