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Old 01-03-2013, 11:16 PM
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Default NEED HELP PVC pods for Dayton ND105-4s

I just got 4 of Singer's 4" Dayton neo fullranges in the mail today. These will go in the stock locations of my hatchback tomorrow. I plan to go to the hardware store to pick up some PVC pipe to make some pods for the rears but I have a few questions/dilemmas...

-Anyone know how much tubing I will need to make a proper enclosure for each?

-The front speakers are mounted in the dash, hidden behind plastic grills... I doubt theres room back there for a proper enclosure... Would it me smarter to leave the front speakers "free-air" than put them in an undersized pod?

-Should I stuff the tubes/pods with polyfil or similar?

-The speakers don't mount up perfectly to the stock holes... I'm thinking about cutting some mounting rings out of some sort of thin sheet plastic if I can find it, and than use something like a butyl rubber as a gasket between these mounting surfaces. I know this is hard to explain, but does anyone else have an easy solution to mounting enclosed speakers in a hatchback without harming the existing panels?? I have an extremely rare car and I don't want to cut anything or use any permanent/harsh adhesives
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0.445 cu ft @ 41hz makes a very smooth response. 50hz to 1khz with no deviation.. just consistent response.

0.053 cu ft (4" PVC roughly 8" long) sealed yields 1.10 QTC and will give a nice boost @ 150hz and smooth tapered response from 150hz to 1khz

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I would just use XTC baffles if it were my vehicle.
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0.445 cu ft @ 41hz makes a very smooth response. 50hz to 1khz with no deviation.. just consistent response.

0.053 cu ft (4" PVC roughly 8" long) sealed yields 1.10 QTC and will give a nice boost @ 150hz and smooth tapered response from 150hz to 1khz

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I would just use XTC baffles if it were my vehicle.
Hmmm so I should probably leave my fronts alone then? I'd hate to go through the trouble of cramming undersized homemade pods in my dash just to have them sound like doodoo

Also, i only have an active deck laying around... how would I go about running these "full-range" speakers? Would it be smart to run some tiny silkdomes off the HU with these? Everyone including Singer have said these do great without a tweeter
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just mount them up and make sure there is as much division as possible between the front and rear waves of the speaker. (seal off the dash cavity if possible)

you can add tweeters if you like. a tweeter per channel will not effect the deck. you will need a crossover for the tweeter though.
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just mount them up and make sure there is as much division as possible between the front and rear waves of the speaker. (seal off the dash cavity if possible)

you can add tweeters if you like. a tweeter per channel will not effect the deck. you will need a crossover for the tweeter though.
Yea I dont think I'm willing to go through the BS of sealing up my dash just for 2 temporary speakers... I may actually need to drop the dash just to get to the speakers. If so, we'll see how everything looks back there and go from there I guess.

And I've never ran an active unit before... but why can't I cross my tweets through the deck?
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Yea I dont think I'm willing to go through the BS of sealing up my dash just for 2 temporary speakers... I may actually need to drop the dash just to get to the speakers. If so, we'll see how everything looks back there and go from there I guess.

And I've never ran an active unit before... but why can't I cross my tweets through the deck?
XTC baffles will take care of you.

I wouldn't consider them temporary. they will work excellent and do what you need.

Active deck? so, it has active crossovers.. but does it have speaker wire outputs? I mean, if it's active and has controlled speaker outputs, then yeah, you'll be able to do lots of adjusting.
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XTC baffles will take care of you.

I wouldn't consider them temporary. they will work excellent and do what you need.

Active deck? so, it has active crossovers.. but does it have speaker wire outputs? I mean, if it's active and has controlled speaker outputs, then yeah, you'll be able to do lots of adjusting.
Pretty sure it does lol it's been sitting in the garage ever since my ex got it for me for my b-day. I only consider the speakers temporary because I plan to eventually switch to PA so I figured some supertweets would fit pretty decently in my dash
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XTC baffles will take care of you.

I wouldn't consider them temporary. they will work excellent and do what you need.

Active deck? so, it has active crossovers.. but does it have speaker wire outputs? I mean, if it's active and has controlled speaker outputs, then yeah, you'll be able to do lots of adjusting.
Hey Sonic, do you think you could fill me in on these XTC baffles? Do you think I should use them on all four speakers? I completely ignored your idea because I've only used these in generic coax door speaker installs only to protect the speaker... Are these really worth looking into? I've never really heard any solid review on them as far as SQ is concerned.

The reason I am asking about these is because I bought my PVC today without measuring the car lol and there's no way I can fit 8" of pipe under the speaker because the wheel humps get in the way... So now I'm considering the XTC baffles... or maybe coffee cans?
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read reviews at crutchfield
XTC 4" Baffles (3-7/8" depth) at Crutchfield.com

you don't really need enclosures. just make sure the rear wave 'goes away'.
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you don't really need enclosures. just make sure the rear wave 'goes away'.
If these sound like poopie im holding you accountable I'll give these a go
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