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Default 4th orders don't get the respect they deserve?

s there a legitimate reason why a lot of people don't care for 4th orders? I mean if you have the space it should should be best way to go. I never heard one in person but I've been seeing impressive numbers
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Not all woofers are ment for 4th.. U build ur enclosure type for what will work best with ur woofer/application.
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I been looking for subs that it's 4th order friendly and most of the suggestions go towards sundown and fi
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Sit in a vehicle with a 4th order that does 155 on the meter, then sit in a flat ported wall vehicle that does the same score. You'll build a flat wall just like most all of us. If you are just chasing numbers then higher order enclosures are the most efficient therefore most effective route to go. If you are building because you want to watch people bail out you build a flat ported wall. They just hurt more, I can't explain it, but they do. The objective listener will also claim the flat ported wall is louder even if the meter says the higher order enclosure is louder.
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Flat Walls just have a different brutality/sound/tonality to them. Idk what it is
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Sit in a vehicle with a 4th order that does 155 on the meter, then sit in a flat ported wall vehicle that does the same score. You'll build a flat wall just like most all of us. If you are just chasing numbers then higher order enclosures are the most efficient therefore most effective route to go. If you are building because you want to watch people bail out you build a flat ported wall. They just hurt more, I can't explain it, but they do. The objective listener will also claim the flat ported wall is louder even if the meter says the higher order enclosure is louder.
It's also because a lot of these "4th orders" aren't true bandpass, they are large sealed enclosures with loading walls, nothing more. Even more than that, the bandwidth of most of them is so narrow, playing music on them is terrible.
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I've heard that walls are louder, but I don't want a wall simply because I want to be able to see out my back glass a little
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Fourths are a fad right now. It's tough to do them right. Flatt wall still my favorite.
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great info here
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I have a small 4th in my truck with 8s, like the response and it moves a lot of air, but im w the above. Ported feels more forceful.
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