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Old 06-11-2009, 11:21 AM
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So today i add a skill to my belt. Disk brakes i changed the trucks rotors and pads this morning. From start to finish it took me about 4 hours. including the 2nd trip back to advance once i found out my caliper bolts are Torx head . But overall it went kinda smoothly. I put driver side rotor on, got it all in, moved to the passenger side, pulled the caliper, pulled the rotor, pulled the pads, open up the new rotor...and its some rotor that didnt belong in the box. it was unwraped unlike the first one, and was entirely different looking. At this point of course my truck is on jackstands, i have 1 side torn down, other side is done. so i call up advance and tell em they f***ed up, heres my address bring me a new one. Luckily advance has that kind of customer service because they didnt argue a bit. i gave em alittle info on wut they had messed up and he brought it right out str8 to my house.

Most important lesson learned today. Its a bad idea to pump the brakes with the Brake fluid resevoir cap off . had hood popped, i pumped the breaks 1 time and i see brake fluid in this nice pattern spray everywhere.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:30 AM
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Goog job man!

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Just putting new pads and rotors on, you do not need to remove the resivior cap or bleed the brakes or add any fluid.. if you compress the caliper piston with a C-clamp that is.

Replacing the Caliper is another story and there is no way without bleedng the brakes.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:34 AM
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didnt replace the caliper, The system is feeling spongy, so i added alittle fluid hoping thatd fix it. not sure wtf is goin on. idk, i had to stop messing with it because i got the brakes hot, was messing around driving around the neighborhood. was driving about 20ft goin 10mph stopping...id speed up to about 40 slam on brakes. finnaly it got to a point where when it was almost stopped just on its last rotation it would do a sort of grind...so i took it back home, and the wheel wells started smokin lol.

is the spongy thing with new pads/rotors supposed to just go away?
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it's not supposed to feel spongey at all.

I'd say bleed it cause there is a chance you got air in the line or in the master cylinder.

Before you bleed it, check every wheel for signs of a brake fluid leak.

Getting the air out of the system is the only way to make it not feel spongey.
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Spongy brakes could either be from air in the lines or a bad master cylinder. Try bleeding the brakes and if that doesn't clear it up then it's time to break out with the tubing wrenches.

When your pads get worn enough and your fluid level is low to begin with you can end up sucking air into the lines.
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ok...explain bleeding brakes to me lol.

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When your pads get worn enough and your fluid level is low to begin with you can end up sucking air into the lines.
We had to put fluid in it before because all of a sudden one day u could hit the floor with the brake pedal and gradually slow down. The brake pads i pulled off were about as thick as your finger nail
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To bleed brakes without help you need a brake bleeder pump, it'll have instructions. To do it with help you need a wrench that fits the bleeder (looks like a grease zert) and one person mans the brakes while another mans the fittings. You start with the driver's side front wheel, the person manning the brakes pumps the brakes fast until they begin to firm up. After they firm up they hold the pedal down and the person manning the bleeders cracks the bleeder and lets the fluid come out. The pedal will hit the floor or go down close to it. After the pedal stops moving down the bleeder gets closed and the pumping begins again. Keep at it until you don't get any air from the fitting. Move to the next front wheel, repeat then move south.

Make sure that the pedal is not released while the bleeder is open or you work is for naught.


Oh, yeah, make sure to keep adding fluid to the master cylinder as you bleed.
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To bleed brakes without help you need a brake bleeder pump, it'll have instructions. To do it with help you need a wrench that fits the bleeder (looks like a grease zert) and one person mans the brakes while another mans the fittings. You start with the driver's side front wheel, the person manning the brakes pumps the brakes fast until they begin to firm up. After they firm up they hold the pedal down and the person manning the bleeders cracks the bleeder and lets the fluid come out. The pedal will hit the floor or go down close to it. After the pedal stops moving down the bleeder gets closed and the pumping begins again. Keep at it until you don't get any air from the fitting. Move to the next front wheel, repeat then move south.

Make sure that the pedal is not released while the bleeder is open or you work is for naught.


Oh, yeah, make sure to keep adding fluid to the master cylinder as you bleed.

hmmm...this sounds like alot of fun, maybe ill slip my mechanic $10 and get him to do it for me when i got em out there vacuuming and recharging my ac system
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It's actually pretty easy. That is as long as the bleeder valves aren't rusted shut.
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It's actually pretty easy. That is as long as the bleeder valves aren't rusted shut.
lol. i gotta learn how to do ball joints now, and drum breaks
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