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Old 03-27-2010, 12:54 AM
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I would like to do a bag set up in my suburban down the road. The trick here is, its 4 wheel drums, so no drop spindles and I dont want to do a C notch. Im not looking to lay frame or anything. My truck has Coil springs on all 4 corners.

I know the basics like compressor, bags, valves, check valves, tank, lines, gauges, controlls and such but I dont exactly know what everythin does and its hard to understand. Maybe some one here can explain it in a way I get.

This is what I am aiming for:

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What do you want to know? I've installed more than a few air setups. I have a buddy with an old Suburban like this, too.
Are you looking to convert to front discs? If you are, that's easy. All you need is the front setup off of a 73-87 2wd truck. Hell, if you go to Pick n Pull on half off day and they have one there, scoop up the whole front crossmember. The front crossmember of these bolt in and out. As I recall, even with ALL the suspension components installed. Use bag cups, just like any other coil spring truck.
The rear should use cups, too. The rear uses a trailing arm setup. It's a 2 link with a panhard bar. I'd recommend running a longer bar (this bar spans from one side of the frame with a bushing that pivots, all the way to the other side on the axle), this keeps the axle centered on it's axis.

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I want to keep the drums for now as down the road I am going to order a kit for front disk that includes the master cylinder, proportioning valve and everything.


I got a parts list off of that guys build log and dont know exactly what its missing.

1x 5 Gallon 8 port tank (Dont know how to chose number of ports)
1x EAI 5 switch controller
1x 75' 1/2" Air line
1x 75' 1/8" Air line
1x 200psi adjustable pressure switch (No idea what this does)
4x Airlift Dominator 2600 baggs (I know they recomend 8.5" diameter bags"
2x Upper bag plates (Not sure again)
2x Lower cups (not sure again)
8x Airlift 300psi 3/8" Valves (Need help here too)
Check valves
Water/Oil Trap
Compressor


I dont know what all its missing or what every single thing does.

Thanks man.
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Fittings. A lot of fittings. I recommend the DOT compression type. The push connect fittings are pretty much junk, IMO. Unless of course, you're in a bind and you're going to replace later on. The compression fittings are kind of a pain in the a$$, but they've never let me down.
A pressure switch will tell the compressors when to turn on and shut off. A 200psi switch will shut off when the tank reaches the 200psi mark. It will allow the current to flow through it, and to the compressors, when it reaches around about 145-150psi. I'd also recommend wiring in a relay in conjunction with the compressor wiring and pressure switch.
The plates bolt to the bottom of the upper spring perch. The plate will be what the airbag itself, will sit on, and bolt to. The spring cups bolt (or sit, depending on which ones you get, I recommend the ones that don't bolt) to the lower control arm. This is where the bottom of the air bag mounts.
2600 airbags will work great for that vehicle. I had 2600 Firestones on my fullsize. Before I sold it, I put in some Universal Air bags in the rear, and Slam Specialties RE7's up front.
I've never personally ran the AirLift valves, but my buddy is actually running prototypes in his fullsize. Actually, my buddy bought the extended cab fullsize from a guy that works at AirLift... The orange and black one with the silver flame graphic... On their homepage. Anyway... I was personally running Parker 1/2" valves with the 5/8" orifice for my ups, and Sirai 1/2's for my dumps.
I personally recommend running more reserve than a single 5gallon tank. I'd probably run 2 5gallon tanks and 2 larger compressors. If I were to build a fullsize again, I'd run 2 Viair 400's and 2 480's. The 400's have a higher CFM rating, but less duty cycle. The 480's have a higher duty cycle, but less CFM.
Otherwise you could run an engine driven. Those are gangsterrrrrr.

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airbagit offers something that they call plug and play. Its the valves, compressor and a couple other tucked into one. I'd post a link but I'm on my phone. anyways something worth looking in to? also how does an engine mounted compressor shut off?
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Airbagit is the same company as Chassis Tech. I personally would not run that setup. I like knowing what I'm using and know that it's of quality.
I feel that the 'plug n play' setup that Airbagit offers is somewhat like a prefabbed enclosure.
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Okay. I'm fairly apart on figuring things out once I know what they do.

How do you make the engine driven compressor shut off? Lol.
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How do you make the engine driven compressor shut off? Lol.

Just like your A/C compressor turns on and shuts off, with an electric clutch on the pulley.... that is controlled by the pressure regulator on the tank that says its full :-)
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