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I am starting to plan my active setup for my 14 Tacoma Double cab and wanted to get some feed back on front stage speakers. Most everything I see now are component set with passive Xovers which I do not need when going active...however I do not want to piece random speakers together with bad result. Or Is the easiest to buy a comp set and scrap the Xover? I currently have a JL 300/4 which I will be upgrading to something more in the 100x4 Range. As far as price I would be willing to spend 400 on a set. Also here are some secondary questions I have...

- what is a good DSP for connecting to factory radio and improving that signal quality. Also need full Xover and eq adjustments. Only need 5 channels.

- when putting tweeters on active, how do you control the power going to them? I'm afraid of toasting the tweets if I hook 100watts to them.
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There's so many options for speakers it's hard to give you a place to start. You can typically get much higher quality drivers at a more affordable price by buying individual components. If you'd rather stick with a passive set and ditch the crossovers that will work as well. SB Acoustics, Silver Flute, Peerless, and more makes great affordable 6.5" mids. Vifa, SEAS, LPG and others offer a broad variety of tweets.

"what is a good DSP for connecting to factory radio and improving that signal quality. Also need full Xover and eq adjustments. Only need 5 channels."

Any processor that accepts high-level inputs should work. If your factory system utilizes a crossover network that sends a different frequency spectrum to each speaker you will need to make sure the signals can be internally summed to make sure you start off with a flat signal.

"when putting tweeters on active, how do you control the power going to them? I'm afraid of toasting the tweets if I hook 100watts to them."

You can use the gain on the amp to decrease volume to match the mids. You can also do this inside the DSP software (with the exception of the JBL MS8) by controlling the individual volume of each driver. It's also worth considering that the audible spectrum that the tweeters reproduce is usually less than 10% of the material you are listening to, so there won't be much power going to the tweets even with the gain up on the amps - this is the nature of music and is independent of theoretical power or gain settings. I always, always put a capacitor in series with the tweeters around an octave below wherever I plan to cross them over as a passive back-up in case I accidentally screw up the crossover digitally while fiddling with the DSP settings. For a 4ohm tweeter you can use about a 20uF cap, for an 8ohm tweeter use about a 10uF cap. That will give you a 6dB/oct passive filter at around 2khz. Always use bipolar (non directional) caps.
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All of those speaker brands I have never heard of. Thanks for the input and looks like I have even more research to do.
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Pardon my ignorance...but all these speaker seem..i guess...cheap. However I know that looks can be decieving...or is it that the big brand stuff is just over priced and looks good with no real bearing on sound quality. If the brands you listed are great quality speakers then I'm perfectly fine with that
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Set the gains properly and dont overboost.
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Pardon my ignorance...but all these speaker seem..i guess...cheap. However I know that looks can be decieving...or is it that the big brand stuff is just over priced and looks good with no real bearing on sound quality. If the brands you listed are great quality speakers then I'm perfectly fine with that
If you want "not cheap".... Hertz Mille, Audison Voce, Dynaudio Esotar.
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here is what I'd run.
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That's the thing about buying raw drivers instead of box sets. You don't pay for the name, the convenience or the crossovers.

I don't know what your time frame is for buying your drivers, but I'm about to do a "budget" 6.5"-7" midwoofer shootout if you want to wait a little while to make your decision.
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If you're dead set on getting them right this second...

I'd get these woofers...

Made in the USA (if you care)
Eclipse, W6520R-4

Not sure what your mounting restrictions are for the tweeter. Need to know that before making suggestions.
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That's the thing about buying raw drivers instead of box sets. You don't pay for the name, the convenience or the crossovers.

I don't know what your time frame is for buying your drivers, but I'm about to do a "budget" 6.5"-7" midwoofer shootout if you want to wait a little while to make your decision.
I am all in for these results.
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