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Old 02-27-2010, 09:26 PM
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Question component vs coax ??s

ok folks, ive got a 96 yukon 2 door. ive got plenty of kick from my subs. my problem is my front stage. i switched the stock component door speakers 6.5" with spl coax speakers. then switched the 4 x 10" speakers in the rear with spl coax speaker (yes i know i need to get rid of the 4x10's). anywho, i got it all hooked to a kenwood 600watt amp. 1 small tiny lil problem. i seemed to have lost at least half of my midbass and my highs although cleaner, seem to distort at lower volume than stock speakers. and i have to have my deck turned up twice as much in order to hear anything. now my truck doors do already have tweets built in. so would i get more midbass with a component set instead of coax? and does anybody have some ideas of what to do about upgrading the size of my rear (4x10) speakers. im used to having my trucks referred to as the black note. lately my trucks been sounding more like white noise at low level with mucho bass. any suggestions and or discussion would only educate me so i appreciate anything.

ps,anyone who knws my boss knows i should be asking him these questions.but hes closed up for the weekend and im going insane obsessing over my lost performance.
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What brand/model coaxials?
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ok ya caught me. im a lil embarrassed the 6.5 door spekers are renegade rx series and the rear 4 x 10 speakers are lanzar vx410 series both sets are 3-way. i said spl brand because they are identical to the spl coax speakers we had in stock. we just didnt have any 4x10 or 6.5s in stock so i settled for the lanzar and renegades.
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Maybe if you use some higher quality coaxials you'd find that they sound better. I've had coaxials that sounded quite good. JBL Power series coax, Infinity Reference and Kappa series coaxials, Polk MM series coaxials, Diamond coaxials...

All fairly inexpensive but all very good sounding.
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Maybe if you use some higher quality coaxials you'd find that they sound better. I've had coaxials that sounded quite good. JBL Power series coax, Infinity Reference and Kappa series coaxials, Polk MM series coaxials, Diamond coaxials...

All fairly inexpensive but all very good sounding.
thnx for the advice, i only grabbed these as they dont cost me anything as long as they are on the shelves lol. but any ideas for what i could use for midbass? i was thinking about building a quick lil 8" using a lil type R motor for midbass and mounting it behind the front drivers seat.
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Your polarity is most likely reversed between the speakers.

Test their leads at the amplifier {or head unit} touch each speakers wire to a AA {double A} battery and when the speaker moves outward, the wire touching the positive terminal of the AA battery is the positive lead.

Get them all to move the right direction at the right time and you will have midbass again.
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Your polarity is most likely reversed between the speakers.

Test their leads at the amplifier {or head unit} touch each speakers wire to a AA {double A} battery and when the speaker moves outward, the wire touching the positive terminal of the AA battery is the positive lead.

Get them all to move the right direction at the right time and you will have midbass again.
Very good point! I was speaking from the point of them starting to sound crunchy at low volume though. Better drivers and better crossovers (the MM Polks and Kappas and Power series JBL's all have outboard crossovers with 12db/octave slopes) will help with it not sounding clean at high volume... but phase will also help with that as well.
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I love my Infinity reference coaxials.


I recently loaned my daily driver to my cousin and I think a tweeter died during his use but they really are great speakers. And.. it would have taken a hell of alot for him to have killed one but...maybe... maybe I'll find out tomorrow.
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I made the mistake of leaving a co-worker in my car with the stereo going for 1/2 hour and was rewarded with a blown tweet on my MMC650's. I feel your pain. Happily they were under warranty and Polk sent me a new pair of MM651's. Dunno what to do with them now though, I think I have my front end pinned down pretty well.
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I got one more;

Many years ago, I had four expensive Kenwood 1" soft domes with assorted midbass and midranges in my old car. I left my friend in the car while I bought a pop. He found a sine sweep to play while I was in the station.

I had one working tweeter afterward.
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