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First off i drive a 01 sl2 saturn, similar to pioneer~saturn on here. everything is deadened except for under the carpet in the cabin and the roof.


1. what size speakers are in the rear of a 02 zx2?

2. why do my midbass(pg rsd) sound like dump when i have doors closed, as in it sounds like no bass from them, only until i open the door and they pound away. even opening the window doesn't help.

3. any suggestions on letting sound from the trunk to the cab without folding my seats down. and still be able to use 6.5's in the rear deck. the rear deck is deadened.

4. with the rear deck being practically sealed off with deadener will adding 6.5's in the deck be harmful to them? seeing as in i don't fold the seats down and that's the only way for air to move? i see a 3db increase with these holes open.

will add questions as i think of them. Thanks!
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1. what size speakers are in the rear of a 02 zx2?
02 Escort ZX2: 6X8

2. why do my midbass(pg rsd) sound like dump when i have doors closed, as in it sounds like no bass from them, only until i open the door and they pound away. even opening the window doesn't help.
they're still pounding.. they're just off axis and pointed at your leg.
MAYBE... just maybe you have one side wired backwards... that would explain it.

3. any suggestions on letting sound from the trunk to the cab without folding my seats down. and still be able to use 6.5's in the rear deck. the rear deck is deadened.
XTC Foam baffles on the 6.5s, and cut a hole in the center of the rear deck.

4. with the rear deck being practically sealed off with deadener will adding 6.5's in the deck be harmful to them? seeing as in i don't fold the seats down and that's the only way for air to move? I see a 3db increase with these holes open.
maybe kindof.. baffles will help the 6.5s but the bass won't get through.
many people don't like rear deck speakers but it's all a matter of function. Right now since you are having issue with the front speakers I'd tell you to hold off on the rear speakers until you get the fronts situated.
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1. ok ty
2. i've checked multiple times. yeah they are off axis. but they are wired correctly. when i open one door i can balance to the opposing side and it will sound great. with either door i do this with, is it possible that the deadener is creating a sealed enclosure for the midbass? would it possibly sound any better if instead completely sealed that i open some holes in the deadener, and just make sure it still doesn't rattle and/or flex?
3.maybe using the xtc baffles and cutting a hole will allow for bass to enter the rear deck.

i used to have a set of tweets running off of the pillars above the rear deck. sounded amazing, and kinda evened out what i am looking for. Maybe i should just go back to that.
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1. ok ty
2. i've checked multiple times. yeah they are off axis. but they are wired correctly. when i open one door i can balance to the opposing side and it will sound great. with either door i do this with, is it possible that the deadener is creating a sealed enclosure for the midbass? would it possibly sound any better if instead completely sealed that i open some holes in the deadener, and just make sure it still doesn't rattle and/or flex?
3.maybe using the xtc baffles and cutting a hole will allow for bass to enter the rear deck.

i used to have a set of tweets running off of the pillars above the rear deck. sounded amazing, and kinda evened out what i am looking for. Maybe i should just go back to that.
Lose the speakers on the rear deck. I'm sure the sub is causing them to distort. Adding those crappy xtc baffles will just choke them.

Front mids: try flipping one side's polarity.
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1. ok ty
yup yup

2. i've checked multiple times. yeah they are off axis. but they are wired correctly. when i open one door i can balance to the opposing side and it will sound great. with either door i do this with, is it possible that the deadener is creating a sealed enclosure for the midbass? would it possibly sound any better if instead completely sealed that i open some holes in the deadener, and just make sure it still doesn't rattle and/or flex?
nope. but balancing to either side doesn't guarantee you have them wired right. You can test them with a AA battery and when the speaker moves outward {toward the front side of the speaker} that is when you have the connected correctly {the lead touching the positive of the battery is the positive}

3.maybe using the xtc baffles and cutting a hole will allow for bass to enter the rear deck.
that's right

i used to have a set of tweets running off of the pillars above the rear deck. sounded amazing, and kinda evened out what i am looking for. Maybe i should just go back to that.
I'm not really a fan of tweeters behind me.. but whatever makes you happy is fine by me.

on the other side,
about 14 years ago, I used to have Six 6.5" Orion Sourcepoint's runing on 200watts rms each.. that was impressive.
don't worry, my waveguides and 8" midbass up front balanced it nicely.

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positive to positive and negative to negative is not always the correct way of wiring speakers
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yup.

don't listen to the troll.
In this case, it's better to listen to the troll than the noob..


electrical phase vs. acoustic phase.

What a joke. the blind trying to lead the blind.

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