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Well...I'm going to start getting my system upgraded. All of my existing stuff is listed in my signature.

Some things to note:

Car: 94 Buick LeSabre...

Usuable Trunk space: 21 deep x 16 1/2 high x 37 wide (that is taking into account leaving about 4-5 inches from the very back).

My back seats don't let down and I don't have a center armrest that will let down..

As far as competitions go...I know there are some that won't allow the rear deck to be cut...I already have a small port in it and can seal that off in order to be able to not be disqualified for anything...

So...Let's say I have a budget of $1000....What would you do?

I know electrical needs updating....

Subs are worn out...but still play..5 years later!

Front stage, can use some upgrading but I'm more interested in a louder system but yet have good sound quality because this is a daily driver....

Suggestions?? Amp(s), subs, box, box design, electrical....

Here is a picture of my existing box:



This is a picture of my rear deck..You'll see the small port in the middle (It's not attached to a box)

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two D4 SA 15s {$180 each if they are still available on the pre-order}

4th order bandpass with ports through the holes where the 6X9s go.

move the 6X9s to the kick panels.

Add a battery and a higher amp alternator if possible.
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two D4 SA 15s {$180 each if they are still available on the pre-order}

4th order bandpass with ports through the holes where the 6X9s go.

move the 6X9s to the kick panels.

Add a battery and a higher amp alternator if possible.
I like really like that idea...My only concern is if porting the box into the car via the 6X9 holes violates any rules for USACI or any other big SPL comps...
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two D4 SA 15s {$180 each if they are still available on the pre-order}
Just looked at them and I believe they are still available for pre-order..I hadn't looked at them before...VERY nice looking subs....Perfect match to my SAZ 1500D...I'm thinking maybe even strapping another 1500D...It seems as though they can handle 1500 each..What do you think about that idea?
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Just looked at them and I believe they are still available for pre-order..I hadn't looked at them before...VERY nice looking subs....Perfect match to my SAZ 1500D...I'm thinking maybe even strapping another 1500D...It seems as though they can handle 1500 each..What do you think about that idea?
coil config and wiring becomes a problem.
when strapped, they will only handle a 2ohm load.. D4s won't work for them strapped.

if you are going for two 1500Ds, I'd tell you to get the D2 15s and run them independent of each other. one 1500D per D2 15 will give 1500watts to each sub.

The down side to that idea is the extra load on your electrical... two 1500Ds is 320amps of fusing.. that's a whole lot of load at full-tilt.. It would probably be fine if you get a 350amp alternator.


I think just getting the D4s and running one 1500D is a better choice.

As for the ports through the 6X9 holes, they don't have to be permanent.. just hanging out.. so they should be 100% legal in any competition.
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coil config and wiring becomes a problem.
when strapped, they will only handle a 2ohm load.. D4s won't work for them strapped.

if you are going for two 1500Ds, I'd tell you to get the D2 15s and run them independent of each other. one 1500D per D2 15 will give 1500watts to each sub.

The down side to that idea is the extra load on your electrical... two 1500Ds is 320amps of fusing.. that's a whole lot of load at full-tilt.. It would probably be fine if you get a 350amp alternator.


I think just getting the D4s and running one 1500D is a better choice.

As for the ports through the 6X9 holes, they don't have to be permanent.. just hanging out.. so they should be 100% legal in any competition.
Good stuff...I did a little more reading on the subs and see that Jacob doesn't recommend giving them more than 1000rms...They are rated at 600rms so your first suggestion was right on the money! Looks like I'd need to up my budget several hundred to do much better....So, suggestions on who can design that kind of box? (Besides Ami..He is not designing the boxes he's building anymore)

So..With what you've suggested, here is where my budget stands:

2 SA 15's - $360
2nd battery - Already got one coming for FREE!
New box (I will pay someone to build it) - $400??
1/0 - 1 more run to 2nd battery $80
New connectors - $25
Additional fuse block $25
Total so far $890.00
What else am I missing?
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looks like you've got it figured out.

I can handle the design for you.
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looks like you've got it figured out.

I can handle the design for you.
Cool...Any suggestions for a box builder?
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Any other suggestions?? I know that iamsonic knows his stuff but I'm always interested in what other experts think.....
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Looks like you're way over estimating for the box. You should be able to build it for less than half that, even using birch. Who built your current box? Why not let them do it again? Looks like they did a good job...
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