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Hey all,

I was HEAVY into car audio back in the days when it exploded. Some of you remember the Rockford Fosgate and Orion amps that were rated a 2 ohm, but would run NO PROBLEM at 1/4 ohm and light the air on fire!

Didn't have a Ridonkulous amount of products to choose from, but some of the stuff was fantastic. I had a DCA-3500 Denon car amp (yes Denon used to make car amps), that was a smooth as silk.

Anyone remember how to calculate/make a dual-reflex band-pass enclosure for a 15" subwoofer? In the tuned range even with lower power amps it would blow your hair off. BTW, Isobaric enclosures were actually two subs put together, not a brand back then.

Anyways, now Back to the Future and I'm eager to see/hear what improvements have been made since 1990.

So far I've been underwhelmed with the amps as there is no consideration for THD anymore; just SPL's (guess that's what happens when people go from triple digital CD encoding to listening to compressed music on I-Pods).

The head units are damn impressive though and I'm trying to get a really good feeling for component speaker improvements. Like I said, the choice out there is outstanding, but how is the performance overall. I noticed no one seems to make their own caps (filters) anymore and the speaker companies go on and on about how good their component filters are. (news flash, they are just high quality, low thermal coefficient resistors with a ultra-fast micro capacitor) and can be made from scratch in an hour. So I'm really interested in the SQ from the speakers themselves.

That said, I'm totally on the fence if we have made a quantum leap forward in speaker designs or just have prettier decals. I really do welcome your thoughts and feedback. I would have to say though, bringing horns, compression tweeters with mid-ranges and wave-guides would add a whole lot of fun to the car speaker/SQ game.

What do you think?
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Old 10-01-2010, 04:27 PM
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Myself im not entirely convince we made a big leap forward either. One improvement I have seen however, is smaller, lesser known companies are really stepping up their game. I really like Sundown, DD, DC...etc. Its time the big boys had actual competition. Dont get me wrong I still dig Rockford, Kicker, but lets face it they need some one other than JL to throw down with. Yeah I remember the Power (the real Power Series) amps from Rockford, The mosfet 1000, 650, and 300. The red Orion amps that were rated at like 25x2 but when run to 1 ohm and under were just sick what power they could deliver. Bandpasses...meh...still not a fan. They have their place im just not a fan. Think we have made a pretty good step forward, but we could also use some of the "technology" from the 80's and 90's instead of producing "prettier" amps as you said.,

Just my thoughts,

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Those are some good companies you listed, not mainstream.
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I'm eager to see/hear what improvements have been made since 1990.
New subs take more power to get where you are going.. but once they get there, most of them hold together. {a bit of a trade off}

New amps make more power with more distortion. {a bit of a trade off there also}

I am stuck on old school. The new stuff can kiss my butt.

Good luck and Welcome to CACO.
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I had one of the Denon amps for a while (loaner from a friend) on some 3 1/2's in my Jetta dash. Loved that car.
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