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So doing a project for school and Pioneer is the focus. I would like to poll the audio community and ask if pioneer introduced a new line of subs and amps, that are in line with price and performance of many of the big names like Sundown, Fi, or DC, would you buy from them?
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Already did they poll on roe. Would you want me to do it here too or just roe to keep things more accurate
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why not, theyd probably have someone OEM for them anyways like crossfire or eclipse
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I'd buy their subs even now because you can't beat what you get for the price. But at the end of the day if I have more money I'm going to look at other brands..
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i love their HU's as far as subs some are ok. havent seen any nice subs come out
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The spl5000 or whatever it was called was the best sub ive ever owned. So yes I would

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The spl5000 kills a lot of subs out there
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So doing a project for school and Pioneer is the focus. I would like to poll the audio community and ask if pioneer introduced a new line of subs and amps, that are in line with price and performance of many of the big names like Sundown, Fi, or DC, would you buy from them?
That would have to be the key. The price to performance would have to be there. Those "GM" series amps or whatever they were- were actually very nice. But pricey. That SPL Pro sub they made (make?) is a beast too. But like $700 per? Pfft.

I don't know why mainstream doesn't murder these "upstarts" or underground guys. They have the bankroll to do whatever the hell they want. And the buying power to do it at a price.
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And since I'm a little grumpy today... I'll just say that anyone that votes no after it was stipulated that the price to performance would be on par with all the nuthugger brands is just that. A brand snob nuthugger.
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That would have to be the key. The price to performance would have to be there. Those "GM" series amps or whatever they were- were actually very nice. But pricey. That SPL Pro sub they made (make?) is a beast too. But like $700 per? Pfft.

I don't know why mainstream doesn't murder these "upstarts" or underground guys. They have the bankroll to do whatever the hell they want. And the buying power to do it at a price.
With their name, clientel isnt even an issue. they can produce their premier 1000rms line for 30-40 per woofer (if that) and make a rather large profit margin on them. However, you then have to account for the fact that pioneer, has a shit load of overhead, so that profit margin of a 200%+- sale per subwoofer gets cut down then cut down then cut down then cut down. that leaves them at a much less marginal profit than one would want. Sundown exists (using it as an example but you could replace sundown with any other small brand) because their overhead is nowhere near that of pioneer, jacob has a rather small amount of employees, he IS the designer, and doesnt have multiple locations. so he can afford to pay a price of $200 for a zv4 (guessing idk their actual cost per woofer) and selling for 350-400 because their overhead is much less and their profit margin is much higher. That is why sundown has multiple woofer lines and continues to innovate and answer everyones needs.

and while both have an initial profit margin of 100%-300% (guessing again), one is 80+ dollars the other is 200+.


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