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YouTube - U.S. Foreign Troops Gearing Up for Martial Law In America

U.S. Foreign Troops Gearing Up for Martial Law In America- bit long but it covers FEMA camps.

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All I know is Bush was able to pass an act that allows him to stay in office for however long after he declres marshall law under terrorist attacks.
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Dunno man, I remember reading a while back that every police agency in the country was undergoing training in case martial law was declared AND Bush threatened to declare martial law if congress didn't pass the $700,000,000,000 bailout for the banks and lending industry. Doesn't seem too far fetched to me. Remember, the government isn't afraid to trot out troops any time that they think that the American people might want the status quo to change. Look at the student protests in the 60's. They weren't even mildly violent until the government became involved and then they turned ugly and on one occasion, fatal.

Just imagine if people take to the streets protesting the fact that we're going to have to pay the bill on the bailouts. Remember, the people that earn less than half of the money in the US economy pay over 90% of the taxes and the tax increases that this clusterfvsk will bring about will affect those people paying the most taxes. This means the middle classes and down. In other words, you, me and our peers.

If every man, woman and child in the US had to pay the bailout we each have to pony up $2,333.34. That's even counting a few dogs and cats as I'm using 300 million people and we're not quite that big, the US is a few million people shy of 300 million. Ok, now that's not too bad but now start paring that number down to who's actually paying taxes. Kids don't work, they're dependents so that's maybe 40% of that 300 million gone. Then we have those on government programs that are non-taxable, that's a few more percent, let's say 3% or 4%. Then there are those that don't have an income to tax such as housewives. Yeah, that's a shrinking statistic but there are a few, maybe another 3%. Then there are charitable organizations like churches that are tax free, native Americans that are also tax free and the clergy themselves. That's another 4% or 5%. So we pull 50% right off the top for those that don't pay taxes out of that 300 million people and we're down to 150 million people paying the bill. That bill just went up to $4,666.64 per person. But wait, there's more! The upper middle classes will get out of some of theirs since they can afford to use better accounting to write off more living expenses and the upper classes will write off even more with deals and subsidies from our government to keep their businesses in the US. Then you add in loopholes and other tax shelters and they'll end up paying little to none of the debt incurred so that's another 10% of the population not ponying up.

So in the end about 40% of the US population will end up paying that $700,000,000,000 tab that G.W. saddled us with. So, the government is right to be a little nervous. If the working class in America were to rise up en masse in open revolt over the government's stupidity the result would be wholesale slaughter of the rich and powerful. That's the demographic the government really represents after all so they would, in effect, be the ones that the angry villagers would be grabbing up torches and pitcforks and going after.

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Yah it truly is scary. With the passing of the patriot act and other laws, that say the president can declare anyone a "enemy combatant" or a "terrorist" without having proof, or even having a trial to prove it, it makes you wonder if they're only use it lawfully. I mean, if the president has an enemy, what's to stop him from using that law to declare him an enemy combatant without any proof (since the law says he doesn't need any) and then just have him snatched up in the middle of the night.

Not saying that Bush would do that of course, because I'm sure he's honest as can be, but just saying, the fact that it's there leaves it possible for someone not so honest to abuse. And history has proven, any time power can be abused, it ends up being abused.

Another scary thing is Obama is one of the most active anti-gun congressman voting wise in the history of the United States. He voted to ban powder guns, and hunting rifles. Probably the least harmful guns you can own. It's not like he's just voting to ban all semi-automatic guns (which he has voted for also, including all handguns).

It's a scary situation. There's a video about Naomi Wolf, who has done some research into dictatorships. Supposedly all dictators went through a certain process before they were able to take over. According to her, every step has been completed in America except for one. Take a guess at what that "one" is...

YouTube - Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America

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