if your a mudder and have the running gear to back those tires up get them, if not your just going to waste your money. you will break alot of parts. Boggers are what i run on my bogger and its the only tire i will run. stock axles and drive shafts wont like them, AT ALL. they are a single purpose tire and thats bogging. there a very soft tire and will wear like no other on the street. personally i love them, the most bad ass tire you can buy.