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Old 04-24-2009, 03:01 PM
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Default On the hunt for some neo

So I'm looking for 3hp neo motors, big fan of the light weight.

Corey A. shows me this seller on ebay that is known to have a large stock, so I send him the following messages and here is what transpires.

I'm not trying to bash the guy, but you can tell from how he talks that he deals with a large amount of people who know little about car audio.

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Dear Patrick,


Do you have any neo motors left or know where to get a hold of a pair?

-Nate
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Dear Nate,

Sure, we have them. Did you want pics? (he left his email here)

-Patrick
So I emailed him asking for pics and prices.

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Hey Nathan,

Each motor is only $220 shipped. We have the Eclipse Ti as well as the PG Ti frames that allow for up to 4" of excursion. We also have the LA / Axis frame which is a little bit cheaper and allows up to 3.5" of excursion.

See attached.

Patrick

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Notice only 1 picture had a ceramic motor in it, remember that for later. So i reply to his email.

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Patrick,
Awsome, you have the PG Ti frames? How much would it cost for a pair of D4 or D1's built to handle 1200-1500rms. Looking for good sq and mean low end.

Thanks,
Nathan
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Nathan,
We have to use the Memphis LVS coil with them and that's a D2 coil. We really don't have enough frames to order custom coils for them. Sorry. Remember though that Class D amps that are 1ohm stable, will also produce full power into a 2ohm load... They're just STABLE to 1ohm as well.

Oh, and they're only $300 each shipped and terminated like the DD subs.

Patrick
Awesome, $300 shipped, thats not bad, 200 for motor, 100 for recone, reasonable. Not getting a great recone from Dave (TeamPSI) on here, so thats a decent price.

Then, after the lesson on Class D amps, I get this email shortly.

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Oh, and that price is for the ceramic motor. Neo is $100 more.

Patrick
Interesting, suddenly there is a price increase when this entire time I was referring to neo motors.

So I figure, maybe he is confused and I just ask for a general price for 2 subs.

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so how much for a pair of PG Ti Neo's?
His incredibly low priced response!

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Nathan,

Only $800 shipped for the PAIR! Wow, I know.. And do think JL sells one whimpy sub for more than that. I can't wait until our amps are done too.

I'll send you an invoice.

Patrick
Me oh my, only $800 for a pair, JL would never do that, I should send him my money. He did in fact send out an invoice immediately, lol. Notice he drops the line about his amps, lol.

So I kept my cool and just shot this back, didn't want to be mean even though this guy was hoping I was a sucker the entire time.


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No thanks man, just too overpriced for me.

Thanks for your time

Nate
I had a good laugh at this as did Corey, so I figured I'd throw this up here for you guys to look at also.

This isn't incredibly crazy by any means, but do people really fall for how this guy talks?
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Old 04-24-2009, 03:23 PM
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damn.patrick at robotunderground is usually a great seller with tons of helpful information and some of the best prices around....Cocaine is a hellava drug...LOL
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Yeah, he was a nice guy, just don't get where he got his prices and info from in these emails
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Thats interesting. I remember seeing a few of his ebay listing of 3HP neo motors for like $175 not too long ago. Wow what a price increase!
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Yeah, actually just did some quick research and there is a lengthy thread on DIYMA about him, and its not good at all.

Robot Underground - DIY Mobile Audio

I don't know if you have to have an account to view it, but I hope he's not the only one with neo motors
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he won't be in a littel bit
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Oh yea, he got bashed hard on ca for that whole "full power @ 2ohm".
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if you get a chance, read the thread on diyma, he posts there and is incredibly short tempered!
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OK, so I'm not sure if any of you actually read the Diyma thread or just didn't have the time to go through 17 pages, which I don't blame you at all for not doing.

We need to flag RobotUnderground as a scammer, I did nothing but research on him since I posted this up friday and there's no doubt in my mind this guy shouldn't be selling anything to any of us. Beyond just the diyma thread there are countless transactions with him that involve either unstable equipment or more often DOA equipment.
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Hard to flag him as a scammer when he's not a member but we can put him in our respective DNT lists.
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