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Default Am I tone deaf? Explain why this 40.00 dollar coaxial sounds just as good as 200$ cdt

Okay, so call me crazy, but I was testing some of my equipment side by side that I pulled out of my old car and decided to hookup a 40$ pioneer 3-way coaxial speaker and the damn pioneer sounds just as good as my CDT mid/tweet. Here is the setup:

CDT: ES-010 Tweeter, HD-4 Mid and ES-300CC vs Pioneer ts-a532p no xover right off the amp

Both free air, both off of one channel of a JL 300/2.. real talk, they sound just as good as eachother, if anything the pioneer has higher sensitivity so its actually louder than the cdts off the same wattage..


wtf?? /facepalm @ buying these speakers 3 years ago?
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One thing to note when stepping down from higher end speakers is u ared used to hearing more of the music than before so when u downgrade u still remember those subtle nuances in music. I'm sure there are differences if u really concentrate but at first it is hard to notice differences unless the lower level speaker is just junk
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only thing I can think of is that the mid range and up is pretty much the same, but obviously i wont be getting the same mid-bass out of the 40$ speaker at 60 watts rms like I would with my comp set at 160 per channel..
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i thought the same thing when i installed my dads door speakers... i bought him some low end ppi co-axials and they sounded damn close to my mpyre/vibe comp sets
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Hi xx-wade-xx,

The reasons why the cheap speakers sound as good:

Technology improved since you bought your CDT's; run-of-the-mill speakers improved significantly (listen to latests Philips splits).

Speaker sets are only better if installed to optimise the position of the loose speakers for the vehicle it is installed in. The one exelent installer I know had to fit his very, very expensive smaller (loose speaker of the three-way set) of his own car smack bang in the middle of the other one (of different size and therefore other optimal range). Nothing wrong with it, all that counts is that the sound must sound real.

There are two different headunits in play here, and most probably different amplifiers (links to first point above too in a big way). These items make a huge difference to sound quality (and even the circuitry inside the head unit). A good 6 x 9, installed optimally is much better that a good set/combination installed less optimally (old news, but very true).

What are you playing through the two systems? Music optimised for SQ?

Maybe your ears are not what they were used to be (hate me, its fine).

Maybe your old system is just that by now?

The combination of headunit, amp, speakers and location may make/create a sound spectrum that appeal much more to your ears (or put differently; make the type of music you like). Even the best splits/combination of speakers make very different sounds as each other.

I know I stated the obvious above (to the gurus) but did it with the sole purpose as to ensure that the (other) sound lovers out there know/realise that money is not the barrier to the love of quality sound, it is the quality of the time that you spend on your hobby that makes it such a fulfilling and generally interesting past-time.

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Probably because you tested them free air. $40 speakers can sound just as good as $200 dollar speakers, it mainly boils down to install. I am willing to bet the cdts have the ability to sound a lot better if properly installed.
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Probably because you tested them free air. $40 speakers can sound just as good as $200 dollar speakers, it mainly boils down to install. I am willing to bet the cdts have the ability to sound a lot better if properly installed.

lol facepalm
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lol facepalm
So your telling me components sound better free-aired rather than installed. Please explain newb.
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Okay, so call me crazy, but I was testing some of my equipment side by side that I pulled out of my old car and decided to hookup a 40$ pioneer 3-way coaxial speaker and the damn pioneer sounds just as good as my CDT mid/tweet. Here is the setup:

CDT: ES-010 Tweeter, HD-4 Mid and ES-300CC vs Pioneer ts-a532p no xover right off the amp

Both free air, both off of one channel of a JL 300/2.. real talk, they sound just as good as eachother, if anything the pioneer has higher sensitivity so its actually louder than the cdts off the same wattage..


wtf?? /facepalm @ buying these speakers 3 years ago?
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I guess, what I said was misinterpreted. I meant to say, The cdts will sound much better installed rather than in free air. I would also be willing to add to that, with proper time spent on install that the cdts would blow away the pioneers once in the door.
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