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Thanks in advance. I have a set of Id ctx 65cs that I installed in the front doors of my 2012 f150 supercrew. The sound okay but seem to be lacking a lot of mid bass and the tweeters can get pretty harse and cause some listen fatigue. I am running them off a cadence zrs c9 and I am crossing them over on my headunit @120hz. What can I do to change this up, the speakers while bright ont seem to have much depth sound wise, is this an amp or speaker issue. Kinda getting frustrated with this any help on upgrades or fixes would be greatly appreciated.
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How are the speakers fitted into the doors? Are there any gaps around the seal where they are mounted?

You need to work on getting the door sealed off so you don't get rear-wave cancellation, which is the fastest way to kill your lower midrange/midbass. Search for "door treatment" to find more information.
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I have the speakers mounted to some mdf spacers but I pit duct seal between the door and mdf spacer and duct seal between the speaker and mdf spacer. No deadening yet but will just deadening work or do I have to seal it too?
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Not a lot of people know about using the duct seal..that's some good stuff.

Deadening won't necessarily help the midbass, but it's usually used in conjunction with sealing because as the inside of the door acts more like an enclosed space it will have a tendency to rattle or resonate. But...because it sounds like you mounted the speaker well I'm wondering if it's another issue. Does it sound better if you adjust the balance all the way left or right so only one speaker is playing? Do you have any other crossovers besides the one on the headunit turned on? any EQ settings that may have the bass turned down?
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i loved my 2 sets of ctx65cs...gave each set a mb quart dsc450, each amp bridged and they sounded great..where is the slope at on your crossover?
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I have the passive crossovers that come with the components and I have the speakers cut off @ 100 on the head unit. I have a crs z9 and I'm letting the amplifer run a full signal to the passive crossovers. The speakers are low in the door..just not a lot of mid bass coming out for some components running 100 watts. I have to turn the bass up a lot to get some more bass on the head unit..is it maybe the components?
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the crossovers come with 2 different slopes inside of them...theres a switch...and having the amps on full will cause lack of midbass and harsh tweets...setup the amp properly and you will be happier
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Really!!! I seriously had no idea I will jump on that tonight no wonder my tweets are harsh!!!
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And the actual passive crossovers have a switch?
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Having the amps on full will cause a lack of midbass? That's ths first time I've ever heard that, care to enlighten me?

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