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Old 05-29-2013, 11:53 AM
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My current setup sounds good but my Pioneer 4300DVD HU does not allow me to tweak the sounds. Which is something I want to be able to do. Some songs sound great when other need a bit for help. Been doing alot of research and it looks like bit one and RF360.3 is what i'm looking for. In order to run the bit one or RF I would need to make some changes to my current setup.

Currently setup : Mmats651 and Mmats 641 all being powered by a AB350.1 . I'm sure this will give you better idea.



If I do go active I would need to lose a few things and add a few. So this is were I'm looking for some advice. I want to keep the current speaker and AB amp.


Running 2 6.5 in each door 4" mid, tweeter on the A pillar. Is that correct? Should i look to run 2 sets of tweeters?

Do I then run all the 6.5 on the AB350.4 amp? By a new amp for the 4 mid and tweeter?
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going active does not sound like what you are wanting to do. a good EQ would probably serve you better than using active crossovers.
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going active does not sound like what you are wanting to do. a good EQ would probably serve you better than using active crossovers.
What's the reason?

Any one else

Would I bridge the 2 6.5 and run them in one channel?
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if you're listening to music and it sounds good and bad from one song to the next, you most likely have a very poor audio format. going from passive crossovers to active crossovers isn't going to do anything to alter the sound. an EQ will help you alter the response of certain frequencies by attenuating or accentuating a particular frequency effecting frequencies around it depending on the roll off. while a crossover just dictates what frequencies play between a certain range.
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Crossovers and gain structure will make more of a difference in your sound than anything else...more than any EQ ever will. However...there's a learning curve and it's extremely frustrating at times when you are trying to tune.

What exactly are the problems? Do you care at all about imaging and staging, or is it a tonal balance problem? do some notes scream and others fall flat?
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going active does not sound like what you are wanting to do. a good EQ would probably serve you better than using active crossovers.
A good eq will help out tremendously. I like and use Audiocontrol products such as the EQS trunk mount eq. I would do that before just traded out speakers
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Crossovers and gain structure will make more of a difference in your sound than anything else...more than any EQ ever will. However...there's a learning curve and it's extremely frustrating at times when you are trying to tune.

What exactly are the problems? Do you care at all about imaging and staging, or is it a tonal balance problem? do some notes scream and others fall flat?

Last night I disconnected the bottom 5.25 and bottom tweeter. Still using the passive crossover as I don't have a second amp to run active yet. What i'm hoping to get out is a more SQ than Loud front stage. This might kick my azz later when I do run my American bass 1100.1 but will worry about that when the time gets there.

I have the A-pillars 4", tweeter and 2 6.5 on the doors. I like the sound alot more than before. But we are back at some songs some sound better than other. Keep in mind I play Old westcoast rap, old Rock, oldies and Spanish jamz. Most coming from Pandora, example at times when playing rock, Spanish I wish I could make the drums sound a bit more, let the tuba be a bit louder ect. In the pass I had a Kenwood KGC-6042A which was nice but want something different.

I've looked into the MS-8 which will tune it but won't allow you to adjusted the eq right?

Bit 10 isnt that a OEM integration? I've look at the Bit One which is nice and could be a option.

RF 3sixty.3 = I think this would allow me to have 3 different setting depending on the type of music.
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I've looked into the MS-8 which will tune it but won't allow you to adjusted the eq right?
This is the most repeated myth about the MS-8. It has a 31 band graphic EQ to adjust the sound, plus you can adjust the bass, mid, and treble broadly, or adjust the sub level and more. I don't think it's good for your system though since it's complicated by the multiple drivers, and especially with the drivers on-axis on the A-pillars. It's a bitch tuning on-axis A-pillars because the sound reflects from so many surfaces. The microphones pick up the sound as multiple sources. This is a problem whether the system is tuned manually by a pro or tuned automatically.

You can do tuning presets on MS-8 with the graphic EQ favorites. I don't bother with that on my system as I stick to good quality recordings and I accept that not all music is mastered to give the same sound. The #1 adjustment I make is the subwoofer level.
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