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right now i have two vvx 15s for my sub stage in my suburban. i am running a m3 diamond 8" in each door in a sealed enclosure. i have a n4 running my subs and 2 soundstream nanos running everything else. right now i have a set of morel mdt105s in the pillars. they don't work in my current set up. they just don't go low enough. so i was looking for a fullrange or mid that could keep up with my sub stage. i have tried a few mids that i had around so i know that that is my issue. it's just the mids i had laying around can't keep up. i would like to use a full range but if not i will use a mid and a tweeter. if i go the mid and tweeter way they need to be smallish 2 or 3".

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The tang bands are nice but if you want to run some power I would look into these

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The tang bands are nice but if you want to run some power I would look into these

Aurum Cantus AC180/50F1 7" Woofer 296-448

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Usher 8137A 8" Kevlar/Carbon Fiber Woofer 296-616
sorry i should have made what i needed more clear. i am looking for midrange. everything above 500hz. the midbass is being handle by the 8 inch subs in the doors.

i do love those ushers.
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I would use a 3" or 4" midrange if you want to get loud down to 500 Hz. I have 2" CDT mid/tweeters but I cross them at 1 kHz to play them loud. Look at ES-03 or ES-04.
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you think these will keep up with my sub stage?
i actually have the tangs.
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I have some 6 dollar 3.5'' full ranges that keep up off head unit power with my two 18s. I can't wait to put them on full power.
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I have some 6 dollar 3.5'' full ranges that keep up off head unit power with my two 18s. I can't wait to put them on full power.

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The NS3s will handle the mids like a champ with it's long excursion, but overall volume won't be too high and I had problems getting the top end "sparkle" out of them I wanted running full range (and I don't like "bright" highs). As mids they were exceptional though. The Whispers could be a better option, but I just don't think they'll handle a 500hz HP. They sound great, but aren't very robust or forgiving of extra power. I can't speak for the Fostex, but I'd love to try them sometime.

OP: try the TBs and see if you like them. I've tried a few of their drivers, and use them currently (w5-704d) in my setup. Remember that high excursion drivers with a lower FS will give up sensitivity in almost all cases, but also consider that the closer your crossover is to the FS the more harmonic distortion you'l encounter around the crossover point, and phase integration can be a problem as well due to the impedance spike at FS (which can make the speaker "stand out" too much instead of blending into the midbass). Ideally something with an FS around 150hz and 1-2mm of linear travel would be ideal, but I think you can get away with the limited excursion of the TBs from mounting them on the dash, where you'll get a natural boost in SPL from the waveguide-like effect of the windshield and side windows. Be forewarned that mounting them up there might create a few peaks and valleys in the response though, so a good EQ might come in handy.
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Faital Pro 3FE20 3" Speakers - Faital Pro 3FE20 mid-high speaker has a wide frequency range from 100Hz to 20kHz and has a lightweight neodymium magnet - Faital Pro 3FE20 40 watt 3" has an efficiency of 91dB SPL for all high quality mid-high applicati


I run these in a tweeter less setup and absolutely love them. They do get quite loud with the 40rms I have running to them and with a little eq I really don't need a tweeter
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