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Default 4 vents, a-pillars, center storage - where to put what?

I have 4 vents (3" diameter or so) and 2 stock a-pillar holes, possibly more room on the flat edge of the a-pillars, and the center storage thingy on the dash to work with.

What should I put and where should I put it?

I was thinking 2 tweeters in middle vents, 2 tweeters in a-pillars (either pointing at middle of opposing window, or pointed towards middle of windshield) 2 full range in the far left and right vents and 2 full range in the center storage thing.

I might also cut up the a-pillars (well, drill holes anyway) since there seems to be a decent amount of flat area - the only downside is this would aim anything at the windshield

I'm not going for award winning sound - but something that sounds decent and gets fairly loud.

BTW, tweeters are vifa BC25SC06-04
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Update: 4 full range in vents, 2 tweets in center storage, 2 tweets in a-pillar sound good?

Or the other way around?

It took me all ****in day to get to the side vents...I'm not doing it again.

I also measured the diameter of the vent rings, and they are EXACTLY 3", so if anyone can suggest some full range/mid range drivers that are 3" in outer diameter mount or whatever it's called, that would be great.
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This sounds like a cluster****.
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This sounds like a cluster****.
OK, what would you suggest then

I have an extra 6.5" - center channel in center storage thing?

I need 4 tweets man. Put it this way - I keep gain on mids and highs amps all the way down so they last longer and sound better. It's not like I have these 2 50w rms tweets with the gain nearly maxed out and claiming they won't keep up anymore. I don't believe in turning up the gain on tweeter amps.

I'm going to put the remaining 2 tweets in the remaining 2 vents today and see how it sounds. Maybe it will sound like crap. I don't know.

It would be a little more helpful if you at least gave me SOME sort of suggestion or reasoning behind why you think that though.
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This is not a sound quality question. You're asking about the opposite of good sound. If you can safely adjust the amplifier gain for more output then turn it up. If your tweeters are getting 5W at max volume then an increase to give them just 10W is going to sound twice as loud. Rigging up tweeters in your vents is not the right way to do this.
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Keep it simple man there is no reason to run all that equipment in a front stage. A normal 2 way setup should be enough for just about anyone. If you are trying to keep up to a huge sub stage ditch the small tweets and get some pro audio equipment and call it good. If SQ is your goal go hope over onto DIYMA and see what those guys are running.
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Why won't you turn up the gain on your tweets? It makes no sense. Your going to install tweets all over the place just to keep up with no more than 1200 watts to your sub?
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This is not a sound quality question. You're asking about the opposite of good sound. If you can safely adjust the amplifier gain for more output then turn it up. If your tweeters are getting 5W at max volume then an increase to give them just 10W is going to sound twice as loud. Rigging up tweeters in your vents is not the right way to do this.
So you can't have more than 2 tweeters and still have decent SQ? Like I said, I'm not going for the ultimate audiphile award winning front stage or something. I was thinking of putting 2 in each a-pillar, pointing towards the opposite window, to protrude outside the vehicle as well.

I don't know what they are getting exactly. Line driver might be kinda high, amp might be under-rated...etc. They get loud as shit, but they aren't keeping up, and I don't even have the sub in an optimal enclosure yet.

Plus I just want to have a buttload of speakers everywhere...you mean to tell me there is NO way to have 8 drivers in the dash, a-pillars and vents and still sound somewhat decent? Why wouldn't it sound good? I have a 3 way crossover to filter everything precisely.

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Keep it simple man there is no reason to run all that equipment in a front stage. A normal 2 way setup should be enough for just about anyone. If you are trying to keep up to a huge sub stage ditch the small tweets and get some pro audio equipment and call it good. If SQ is your goal go hope over onto DIYMA and see what those guys are running.
I have a dream...of a way to put drivers in all 4 vents and still sound someone decent...doesn't need to be amazing audiphile standard...after watching this vid, I have been wanting to do it and I simply must at least try it out first.

World's loudest miata part 2 - YouTube

I had some $140 kenwood 2-ways from best buy. They literally sounded the exact same as my stock tweeter and mid range. I did a side by side comparison. kenwood in driver side, stock on passenger side. Same power, same amp. I'm currently up to $80 for crossover, tweeters and mids...$100 if you count the additional 2 tweeters I am planning on putting in. Tell me why anyone in their right mind would choose components over custom selection of tweets mids and an electronic crossover that you can change the setting on and use with any other tweeters or mid range drivers that sound louder, cleaner, and cost less?

I'm not trying to go for full on SQ - maybe a slight direction towards SQL?

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Why won't you turn up the gain on your tweets? It makes no sense. Your going to install tweets all over the place just to keep up with no more than 1200 watts to your sub?
Whatever wattage I'm giving the sub, might as well be considered whatever the sub can actually handle, since there is very little difference in giving a 1600w rms sub 1200w, and giving it the actual 1600 it can take. It's marginal. It's like over clocking a CPU or putting a turbo on a 4 banger - minimal performance increase, high possibility of equipment failure.
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You can have as many speakers as you want, but the more you have the more processing you get to do
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What do you mean "processing"
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