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Good morning. i am looking for someone who takes their stereo tune ups seriously and knows what their doing when it comes to really tuning up a system. I have been to alot of different stereo shops and out of all of them there has been only one that i feel knew what they were doing and yes did a great job of tuning my system but I have had others listen to it and say that it can be tuned even better. I am running all high end SQ equipment (or at least this is what i have been told,LOL) and i truly believe that there is more that can be done to it to improve on the sound quality. i had an opportunity to have some work done to it by a person down in the L.A. area who is extremely knowledgeable and good but I didn't go through with it as scheduled for several reasons and now I am kicking myself in the A__ for not going through with it. I live in between L.A. and Fresno and will drive to them to have the work done if need be. If anyone can help me i would be very grateful, Thank you. By the way the list of my equipment is at the bottom of the thread. Let me know if you can help.

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the system that i am running is as follows.
PHD 6.1 Pro series mids
PHD AF 1.c TW tweeters
Kenwood DNX 9990HD double din head unit
Mosconi 4 to 6 processor
tru technology S24
Tru Technology S44
PHD 12.1 single 4 sub
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When you say "tuning" are we talking to your liking or to produce a "flat response" ?
Your right you have the goods and I myself have never owned that level of equipment but close. You want to find someone or a shop with a "RTA" real time analyzer. They can "tune" your system to compensate for all of your rides idiosyncrasies AKA: hard plastic door panels fabric or leather seats and accents ect. Hard surfaces like windows and door panels reflects sound as it bounces around and off these type surfaces. Once a "flat response" is acquired you then tune to your liking using the HU's EQ or a out board eq.
IMO score a pioneer 80prs with built in auto eq and save your self all the stress.
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After my SQ faze I have since made all systems "ASAP" as simple as possible
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thank you very much. I have always assumed that the Mosconi 4 to 6 processor should take care of any and all fine tuning problems but then i am not 100% certain of this. they system as it is right now really sounds quite awesome but I have been told that it could sound even better and this is what i am wanting to attain. I think that the sub could be tuned better with the time delay and that the front staging could possibly even be tuned better. I am at a loss for where to take it to allow someone who knows what they are doing to do the tune-up on it.
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Who is telling you it "could" sound better? These people who can't tune your system?
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What sounds good to some people and what's tuned are two different things. I worked at a shop which had a RTA and in less than a week almost half the customers returned with the gains cranked, EQs set ghetto style(treble and bass at peak settings and the mid section bottomed, I called it the flying V tuning) and speakers distorting. I always told them the gain and EQ are not the volume control and reset they'er crap only to see half of those people stop their cars down the street and get out with their tiny screwdriver and FSU again.
Unless the people who are telling you that it could sound better listen to classical, jazz and opera I would just let it go in one ear and out the other unless you built your system for your friends especially if they listen to metal or rap
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no it's not them. It is several other people who are truly into the SQ comp. circuit. they have listened to it and said good things about the system but that it could be tuned differently to bring out the truest sound. I won't let just anybody even close to messing with my system unless I know for a fact that they are good at what they do and very knowledgeable when it comes to tuning. It's just that there aren't any of these people where i live regardless of the fact that they may own stereo shops or not. i have owned several, several extremely nice systems in the past and I know what my ear wants to hear. Right now the system is tuned very nicely but I would be interested in seeing just how it will sound after someone else that knows what they are doing puts their touch to it because i really do feel that it could be tuned differently to bring out the best sound. I really do believe in the components that i have purchased it's just getting everything tuned properly to bring everything together. thanks for your input and by the way i do agree with the fact that there are way to many people out there that believe that the gains are for turning up the volume therefore causing distortion. This system right now has no distortion at all as far as i can tell.
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If your SQ competitor friends say your car can sound "better" they're probably talking about getting it closer to a reference system. A good idea is to listen to either a high quality 2 channel reference setup (or in the absence of that option, a set of reference headphones) and see if you like the way they sound. If you like that sound, and want to pursue that, ask one of your SQ competitor friends to help you tune to achieve it. If you want to start competing, this is what you'll be shooting for as well, so keep that in mind. As for having shops tune for this result, it's hit-or-miss as you stated, since many shops do not have a RTA due to low customer demand (no return on investment).

If you don't like the way a reference setup sounds, then don't worry about it and simply tune for what you like.

*edited* also a good idea to listen to your friends' cars and see if you like the way they sound. If you hate the way their vehicles sound you may want to go a different direction.
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thank you for the great input. although I'm not certain what you mean by "high quality 2 channel reference system". could you please explain this? the person who has been the one tuning the set up this far has always used an RTA if i'm not mistaken and it doesn't sound bad at all, as a matter of fact it sounds pretty frigging nice but I just feel that the time alignment on my sub is off and the front staging just seems to me to be off somewhat and i can't help but think that it could be tuned to a high level of sound. The speakers that i am running are extremely high end SQ speakers (PHD 6.1 pro series) even though not alot of people have heard of them and the guy that i get them from just so happens to be running them in his car and has been #1 in the masters division in the MECA competition. I don't know maybe I'm expecting more out of my system than i should but i don't think so,LOL. Thanks anyway for all of your input.
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