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Old 05-05-2015, 03:28 PM
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I am between builds and working on my front stage in the mean time. Tweeters are Vifa XT25BG60 and are located on the dash and 6.5 PPI A2.65C powered by a kicker zx200.4. I had the Vifa’s on the ppi crossover and they were too muffled. Yesterday I took the Xover out and put Vifas on CH1 and PPI on CH2 and the Vifa’s came to life, PPI not so much. I then borrowed the Sub rca on CH2 and everything sounds great clear and I have somewhat of a midbass.

Do you guys see any issues with the way I have my front stage wired. This is just a temporary fix till my singer alt and my amp comes in.

I guess I’m trying to achieve a clean, clear and loud front stage setup. Sub going in is going to be a XFL 1244 on a VFL 120.1 Previous sub was an SA12d4 on a brz1200.1 and front stage was not keeping up.
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What kind of head unit do u have and does it have a high pass filter if so whats it on? And are u saying on your amp u have one rca going to chan 1L full pass and the channel 2R sub ? I think you should go full pass from your headunit then split the left and right with a y and go all 4 channels full pass then use ur amps high pass filter on chan 1 and 2 for your tweets and 3 and 4 different high pass setting for your mids

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Head unit is deh-p5100ub it does have a high pass filter and set at 100Hz. Subwoofer filter is set at 125Hz. Crossover switch on amp is off on both sides.

Actually I mis wrote in original post.
Ch1&2 are tweeter coming from HU front
Ch3&4 were on HU rear but were not punchy enough.
Dunno where I got the idea but I switched rear with sub and Ch3&4 came to life.

I have been looking into other amps and the Arc ks300.4 and a ppi sedona 320.4 caught my eye. They have a ton more settings than my kicker
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^^^I agree that we need to know what headunit you have. I don't think that amp has the capability to correctly high-pass the tweeters, and if you're not crossing them over upstream (like with the headunit), you're going to blow those tweeters in no time.

Aside from issues of playing the speakers out of their physical capabilities my philosophy is that if it sounds good to you then roll with it. It's not the way I would do it, but if you're happy and nothing is frying then you're good, lol.

edit: you replied while I was typing, lol. So the only filter you have on the tweets is a 100hz high-pass? That's not good.
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Off topic question, but what scion do you have?
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edit: you replied while I was typing, lol. So the only filter you have on the tweets is a 100hz high-pass? That's not good.
Yes, that is the only filter on the tweeter. Would putting the ppi crossover on the tweets save them from playing out of there physical capabilities? I don't want them frying or at least not yet. There are a few components I want to try out.


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Off topic question, but what scion do you have?
I have the 05 and a singer 200a in route
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Yes, that is the only filter on the tweeter. Would putting the ppi crossover on the tweets save them from playing out of there physical capabilities? I don't want them frying or at least not yet. There are a few components I want to try out.




I have the 05 and a singer 200a in route
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I would strongly suggest tweaking your filters on the tweets. With only a 100hz filter I'm surprised they aren't blown yet. I'd completely cut the filter on the deck and run off your amp. ~4-5khz is generally a good place to start on your high pass.

Also, lower your filter on your sub. Set it to 80hz and match it close as you can on your amp.

I used to leave mine on 125hz too and when my sub quit trying to over extend its bandwidth it sounded much cleaner and got a bit stronger.

Just food for thought.
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Ya the amp i believe is fixed high pass at 80hz and same for lowpass its 80hz at a 12db slope so no it will not be enough to safely run your tweeters like that the external crossover you have will be a safer option for now for the tweeters until you get your next amp with more options and the reason it probably doesnt sound that good with it is because of the different crossover points
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I would strongly suggest tweaking your filters on the tweets. With only a 100hz filter I'm surprised they aren't blown yet. I'd completely cut the filter on the deck and run off your amp. ~4-5khz is generally a good place to start on your high pass.

Also, lower your filter on your sub. Set it to 80hz and match it close as you can on your amp.

I used to leave mine on 125hz too and when my sub quit trying to over extend its bandwidth it sounded much cleaner and got a bit stronger.

Just food for thought.
This is good info^^^^
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