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I've been running pro audio active for about 7 years now but I'm getting a new 4runner and Going a different route. Semi sq budget is what I'm calling it. Lol

I listen to house, hip hop, reggae and old school.
I've been doing some reading on 3 way setups. Plans are.....

Silver flute 6.5 mid bass

Scanspeak 2" Discovery midrange
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...-2-full-range/

Tymphany NE25vts tweeters
Tymphany NE25VTS-04 1" Silk Dome Tweeter

I will be using class d amps since I have them already. I'll see how they work out.
Deck is an 80prs which I already have

Should this be a good start? Any advice
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Those little Scans are so damn sexy. I just worry about them being able to "keep up" with only 10w and 80dB. I've considered them many times.

I honestly wonder if you even need them since your tweeter of choice can play low enough to mate with your woofer. You'd have more control over everything without them in the mix too.
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Those little Scans are so damn sexy. I just worry about them being able to "keep up" with only 10w and 80dB. I've considered them many times.

I honestly wonder if you even need them since your tweeter of choice can play low enough to mate with your woofer. You'd have more control over everything without them in the mix too.
I was thinking 3 way because sometimes I like to play it loud. Three way systems can get louder than 2? Or not by much?

Good point on the low sensitivity, I'll look into that.
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I was thinking 3 way because sometimes I like to play it loud. Three way systems can get louder than 2? Or not by much?

Good point on the low sensitivity, I'll look into that.
More drivers means more output *when playing the same passband*. But you'll be splitting the frequencies up and the Scan will be the output bottle neck in that arrangement. Which means you will only be able to play as loud as the Scans can go. And the midrange is the meat and potatoes. I usually advise people to splurge on the mid in even a budget setup. But there are plenty of budget mids that can get loud as shit. Like the Fountek. They also have a rather anemic power handling, but my buddy has them on the dash in an SQ setup and they will run you out of the car.

My advice is keep it 2-way until you feel like there is something lacking.

For more output... use a full range driver instead of a tweeter. The Founteks I mentioned in my buddy's car is a 2-way. 8's in the doors and 3's on the dash. It gets plenty loud. And they're not much bigger than those large format tweeters.

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...-3-full-range/

Keep it simple. The less drivers you can use to accomplish your goals- the better.
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3 way active with the 80 prs is not ideal. I did it but the results where just OK. You really need the DSP to control every channel and without putting it in network mode all you will have control over is the crossovers on the amps. You will never be able to get the time alignment just right. When you move the mid you will move the tweeter. Unless you plan on going with a 3 way plus sub DSP later stick with 2 way. If you really want it perfect.
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More drivers means more output *when playing the same passband*. But you'll be splitting the frequencies up and the Scan will be the output bottle neck in that arrangement. Which means you will only be able to play as loud as the Scans can go. And the midrange is the meat and potatoes. I usually advise people to splurge on the mid in even a budget setup. But there are plenty of budget mids that can get loud as shit. Like the Fountek. They also have a rather anemic power handling, but my buddy has them on the dash in an SQ setup and they will run you out of the car.

My advice is keep it 2-way until you feel like there is something lacking.

For more output... use a full range driver instead of a tweeter. The Founteks I mentioned in my buddy's car is a 2-way. 8's in the doors and 3's on the dash. It gets plenty loud. And they're not much bigger than those large format tweeters.

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.co...-3-full-range/

Keep it simple. The less drivers you can use to accomplish your goals- the better.
Is he using 8's in his midrange department as well? If so, which ones? I've always liked having small fullrange speakers up high vs. tweaters. IMO it brings so much more of the sound "up" and makes more of the mid range present. Even in SPL land where people would glass those 4" tangbands in the pillars. Those things sounded sweet if you mellowed down the rest of the crap\

Also, It's really weird posting here now and then again. LOL. We were all so active on here back in the day. Seemed like everyday we would be posting back and forth. Where do the times go :/
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Since your going with something different I suggest ditching tweeters and using Daytona 3.5" wide range drivers instead of a 3 way. Will work with miss great and they get loud. I was running 100rms to my 3's no problem.
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whenever i had the option to run active, i always start with a three way active deck or processor and add an adjustable two way active crossover/equalizer to the high freq output and reign in a four way setup for superior control and much needed driver-dependent over/underlapping
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I agree on the prs80. Its advertised as 3way; better suited as 2way. That said, I had good results with mine as a baseline so to speak. Rainbow tweets, morel mids on an Audison sr4. Takes a lot of tuning obviously, but you can get it dialed in to be a real good starting point
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It's a 2 way plus sub. So it is a 3 way.
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