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- flat wire is in the d1 coil, round wire coils are in the d2

-5 stiff spiders old, 4 extra stiff new with stated minimum compliance change

So after my "how many layers" thread, we found out the coils aren't 8 layer, there 4 layer and there's now different tinsel lead and spider counts which means the subs don't match newer versions... upon looking at yet another zcon 15 today I noticed there's also more then one variance of the 4 layer coil, a flat wire and round wire. Ill be looking at yet another 15 later to see if there's other variances

So can you guys clarify how many models are floating about

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I always liked the first ones, never got to own any besides the icon series.. blah
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There is only one.

But seriously, would need to know which voice coil selection and when they were built as there has been slight adjustments through the years.
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There is only one.

But seriously, would need to know which voice coil selection and when they were built as there has been slight adjustments through the years.
heres my issue... from what ive seen, you cant just put any zcon with any zcon. friend bought 2 of them a few months back. they weren't 8 layers like stated on every site since at least 2011 which was a big selling point in choosing them since he was at the time running an AB 1100.1 to a pair of 12s and didn't want more then 2 subs to do it.

we then tore them apart to recone them to 15s, in which I seen there not 8 layer, there a slightly oversized 4. but then im told that was just a recent update and was informed the update included a different spider count/lead count. BUT, the subs didn't have the updated spider/lead count that were in the update. needless to say heres how many "versions" ive seen out of the 4 he has and what "sites" say;

-4 spiders, 4 leads

-5 spiders, 3 leads

-3" 8 layer

-3" 4 layer round wire

-3" 4 layer flat wire

many of those combos wont work together or have the same specs. so why don't you tell your customers that theres updates so they know theres more then one? a 5 spider sub is not going to be "close enough to the same" as a 4 spider sub

I also think you should fire whoever wrote every spec on the zcon that lists it as an 8 layer since THE ZCON NEVER HAD AN 8 LAYER, EVER

ive been told that coil never ever went into the sub and the parameters listed were for the 4 layer coil that's always been in the sub, YET, a 4 layer round and 4 layer flat will not have the same parameter nor will 5 spider vs 4 spiders.

so, could you guys tell me agsactly what all is the deal? the coils were 4 layer rounds with 4 spiders, 4 leads and the 2 he just bought are 4 lead and 4 layer flat wire. is he going to get round? flat? 4 spiders? 5? 3 leads? 4 leads?
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Maybe somebody is getting fired, or someone is about to gun to their head.
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I don't know what's going on and it seams no one else does either... I do know that if a good answer isn't found that they won't be zcon recones when there made into 15s
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