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Default SCV 3000D dyno by BigDwiz

posted on caraudio.com, and it seemed to get buried quickly..

Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FeTTK3hDkA


what i dont understand, is why /how did the Sundown do so poorly? i mean, all BS aside as i really didnt even care about the orion numbers, its not impressive for a 5k amp, but at @ $600 it is great for the $.. but i was more interested in what MY svc 3k can do on the dyno.. Going off Jacobs post here:

SCV Amplifiers : Amp Dyno - Car Audio Classifieds!

it shows my 3k doing 3334W @ 12.67V certified, and big D dyno shows 3004W @ 14.62V

HTF is it that far off from one dyno to another of the same dyno?? Somewhere, there is error among us.





I was told that 10 of the same amps can vary 500w from each other. i completely understand that, and wont argue that at all. Tolerance from components, etc, etc.. there is a 2V difference here!! 2 fkn whole volts!!!! and this one does less??

i hate to throw around the word sabotage, as i have watched big d vids for a very long time.. that said, i am more likely to believe Jacobs tests are skewed. he noted that he shipped the amps to be tested.. who ever has dyno # 14 has some explaining to do.

And, whats funny, is by BigDwiz tests, Sundown does NOT make rated.. it took 14.62V to make 3004W. drop that voltage to 14.4v and hmm...

cant post pics for some reason, links instead

https://ibb.co/jQFLXJ

https://ibb.co/daKazy

Who owns dyno #14??
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Welp, there goes that. I was just about to purchase the svc3k from the amplab prior to coming here. I guess I have to watch the rest of the 3k videos now.
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Our own shared Dyno test from 2014 was already a third party test.

I will do one on our own Dyno as well and share it as we have our own now (we did not at the time of the amps release).

Either the test was done wrong (either accidental or on purpose) or the amp tested is messed up -- the SCV amps do NOT require over 14v to meet rated, period. It's a simple fact and the product has been available for 4-years now -- there is no conspiracy or inflated figures or it certainly wouldn't have taken four years for someone to "uncover" it.

PS: The owner of Dyno #14 owns their own audio company and, thus, has no reason to skew the results.
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WTF Orion !!!! Not expecting that....
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Welp, there goes that. I was just about to purchase the svc3k from the amplab prior to coming here. I guess I have to watch the rest of the 3k videos now.
I bought it, actually... I'm not worried by BigDWiz's dyno... We all know Sundown has no problem exceeding rated power, so I believe this was a large anomaly.
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I will do one on our own Dyno as well and share it as we have our own now (we did not at the time of the amps release).

the SCV amps do NOT require over 14v to meet rated, period.

Thats awesome. thank you! i was really put out after seeing the numbers. Hoping this gets cleared up!
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We all know Sundown is A++, but with the way Orion has been for years, the performance of that amp was like wtf, are they gonna make a real comeback?
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I bought it, actually... I'm not worried by BigDWiz's dyno... We all know Sundown has no problem exceeding rated power, so I believe this was a large anomaly.
Good for you. I'm gonna wait for them to test and post their product. I have a couple pieces of their product also.
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I have another SCV-3000D in the way to test, brand new, which should clear up the confusion of the current amp I have being the issue or not.

The mention of me ďriggingĒ any test is absolutely absurd. I donít work for ANY mfg, Iím completely independent. I test amps and show results and as anyone who has a Dyno knows, you canít fake or rig the results. Itís understandable if a mfgís amps donít perform as expected, then the finger has to be pointed somewhere. But even the hint of me doing something unethical is 🤬

Iíll reserve any further comment until I get in the new amp to test.

Also, the slap contest in the video was all in good fun, no disrespect intended. Orion was on the receiving end of those slaps in a video last year (Ztreet 8k vs Soundstream 8k). Got me blocked from their Facebook page (Iím still blocked). IDGAF. I do what I do for my viewers, thatís it.
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We all know Sundown is A++, but with the way Orion has been for years, the performance of that amp was like wtf, are they gonna make a real comeback?
Their HCCA line has been top notch for years I run 8 of their 10" mid's in my doors and they are incredible
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