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Alright boys and girls. I've got some neat stuff to share with you today. Can't let Taylor and Jeff be the only ones sharing cool stuff.

Before I dive in. Yes it's still volt amps not power but since that is still the most common method of clamping then this is still VERY relevant.

Now to the goodies. Came in the mail today. Unfortunately to my knowledge they still don't make a cheap inrush clamp power meter so I was looking at different products and I stumbled upon Fluke's new line of Fluke Connect meters:



Only drawback to these meters are they are very specific. The DMM measures AC voltage only and the clamp measures AC amperage only. But since their primary use is for clamping then that's ok with me. Especially for under $300 that's a great value in my book

So what makes these meters different? WIRELESS. Via bluetooth they can connect to my phone and display real-time figures as well as record data over a given time and a few other cool features like exporting data via text files, which would come in handy when figuring rise.

IMO this is miles ahead of the current clamping methods of the small time guys and pros at competitions. Instead of having to rely on peak hold for vehicles sealed up or a trunk car at competitions you simply place the meters, close the vehicle and the judge can monitor the amplifier output at the desk. It has a capture function too so you don't have to remember the numbers just click capture to save them.

EVEN more awesome is a judge can pair two dmms and two clamps for two people in the lanes and have separate readouts for each vehicle.

If input voltage to the amp is an important stat for you then pick up a dc voltage dmm and monitor that too at the same time for an exact measurement during peak power.

I literally just got these and am still playing with them but I wanted to get this posted before it got too late.

I also took a crappy video so please bear with my chromebook:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2uzKui6CM
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Also here's where I got mine:

Fluke V3000 FC Wireless AC Voltage Module | ThermalCameraExperts

Fluke A3000 FC Wireless AC Current Clamp Module | ThermalCameraExperts
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Lol...was that a 3 watt burp in the beginning of the vid?

I think you have a great point about being able to run a sweep and graph impedance across the bandwidth. That alone could save tons of time and help in tuning dramatically.
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Lol...was that a 3 watt burp in the beginning of the vid?

I think you have a great point about being able to run a sweep and graph impedance across the bandwidth. That alone could save tons of time and help in tuning dramatically.
yeah my wall makes a little noise.. lol

Yes indeed. All in all makes clamping a hell of a lot easier and faster.
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Thanks for the tips. For some fluke thats cheap espxially when its wireless and convenient.
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Thanks for the tips. For some fluke thats cheap espxially when its wireless and convenient.
Yeah very cheap. That's why I jumped on it immediately.

But I'm guessing cost goes down quite a bit when they cut out a lot of hardware for other features as well as buttons/dials and screen size. Bluetooth controllers are also dirt cheap.
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Shame on you. Dont fool yourself into being ripped off. You fluked a fluke. Be happy.
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Shame on you. Dont fool yourself into being ripped off. You fluked a fluke. Be happy.
I'm ecstatic.. I've just been plugging the dmm into wall outlets and walking away watching voltage on my phone lol.
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Just took a sample recording. In a hotel room so nothing to clamp but still I had it running.

So emailed to myself as a text file:

10/31/2014 07:30:07 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:07 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:12 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:12 PM 0.0 A AC
10/31/2014 07:30:12 PM 0.0 A AC

10/31/2014 07:30:07 PM 122.4 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:07 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:08 PM 122.4 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 122.3 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 122.3 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 122.3 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:09 PM 122.4 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 122.6 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 122.6 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:10 PM 122.6 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:11 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:12 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:12 PM 122.5 V AC
10/31/2014 07:30:12 PM 122.5 V AC


copy paste those into an excel document and bam you can figure out a lot. You could just put in a simple multiply function to find watts (voltamps). Or you could adjust sampling time to 1 time per second and play a sweep changing frequencies every second and then have v/a for impedance at each frequency.. way too easy.

Here's exported as pics:




Best 270$ I've ever spent..

EDIT: just realized each meter has onboard memory for data logging when you are away. So you can press log.. walk outside of the range and then come back in range and download the data it has collected..

"Hey man I gotta go to lunch. I'll be right back"
"wait should I stop testing"
"nah I'll just record it on the meter and download when I come back"

soooooo cool.
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