Wire isn't wire, there is ofc(oxygen free copper) and cca (copper clad aluminum) ofc is better.kicker hyperflex is silver/tin coated ofc. Some of the cost is due to flexibility. There is also the thickness of the wire itself (strand count), not just the jacket it's in. Some has a higher strand count than others.
Wire brands
Ok so I know the saying "you get what you pay for" but I was wondering about power wire... I bought the brand Bullz Audio 0ga off Ebay then was kind of thinking Damn that was pretty cheap compared to other brands. 50 ft of 0 gauge for $50. So I was wondering if I bought some junk or is wire, wire??
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did the ebay advertise the wire as 0 gauge or 0 AWG ? thats what you need to look for with wire, if you purchase 0 gauge wire then you will be getting probably 50/50 wire to insulation and if you get 0 AWG wire you are getting 80/20 wire to insulation
What type of material was advertised, there is a big difference from CCA wire or OFC wire, CCA is copper clad aluminum or copper plated aluminum wire and OFC is oxygen free copper, the wire is 100% copper which is MUCH better at conducting electricity than aluminum thats copper plated
Bullz audio only advertises there product as 0 gauge and only says oxygen free, actually does not specify the material used, another thing i noticed is that the 50ft spool is advertised at 9.5 LBS shipping weight, that seems AWFULLY light for 50ft of wire, when i ordered my 25ft roll of 1/0 AWG 100% copper welding wire the 25 ft roll had a weight of 13 pounds,
so doing my research i would say yes you probably did buy poor quality wire
things to look for when purchasing wire
make sure wire gauge is AWG (American Wire Gauge )
Cable material is 100% copper or oxygen free copper
has a good weight to the wire
look for a large Nominal O.D thickness with a SMALL Nominal Wall thickness
hope this post gave you guys some things to look for when buying wire!
What type of material was advertised, there is a big difference from CCA wire or OFC wire, CCA is copper clad aluminum or copper plated aluminum wire and OFC is oxygen free copper, the wire is 100% copper which is MUCH better at conducting electricity than aluminum thats copper plated
Bullz audio only advertises there product as 0 gauge and only says oxygen free, actually does not specify the material used, another thing i noticed is that the 50ft spool is advertised at 9.5 LBS shipping weight, that seems AWFULLY light for 50ft of wire, when i ordered my 25ft roll of 1/0 AWG 100% copper welding wire the 25 ft roll had a weight of 13 pounds,
so doing my research i would say yes you probably did buy poor quality wire
things to look for when purchasing wire
make sure wire gauge is AWG (American Wire Gauge )
Cable material is 100% copper or oxygen free copper
has a good weight to the wire
look for a large Nominal O.D thickness with a SMALL Nominal Wall thickness
hope this post gave you guys some things to look for when buying wire!
Well looking back the description says "oxygen free" but doesnt say "copper" specificaly. Well since I got 100 ft of it I guess I'll make extra runs if its thinner. lol
did the ebay advertise the wire as 0 gauge or 0 AWG ? thats what you need to look for with wire, if you purchase 0 gauge wire then you will be getting probably 50/50 wire to insulation and if you get 0 AWG wire you are getting 80/20 wire to insulation
What type of material was advertised, there is a big difference from CCA wire or OFC wire, CCA is copper clad aluminum or copper plated aluminum wire and OFC is oxygen free copper, the wire is 100% copper which is MUCH better at conducting electricity than aluminum thats copper plated
Bullz audio only advertises there product as 0 gauge and only says oxygen free, actually does not specify the material used, another thing i noticed is that the 50ft spool is advertised at 9.5 LBS shipping weight, that seems AWFULLY light for 50ft of wire, when i ordered my 25ft roll of 1/0 AWG 100% copper welding wire the 25 ft roll had a weight of 13 pounds,
so doing my research i would say yes you probably did buy poor quality wire
things to look for when purchasing wire
make sure wire gauge is AWG (American Wire Gauge )
Cable material is 100% copper or oxygen free copper
has a good weight to the wire
look for a large Nominal O.D thickness with a SMALL Nominal Wall thickness
hope this post gave you guys some things to look for when buying wire!
Ahh dammit! But thanks! lol
This is 100% incorrect. 0 gauge and 0 AWG are the same thing. If you want to tell whether or not something is true 0 gauge/AWG, you have to measure the cross-sectional area of the conductor(s). 0 gauge/AWG is 53.5 mm^2 or ~0.083 in^2.did the ebay advertise the wire as 0 gauge or 0 AWG ? thats what you need to look for with wire, if you purchase 0 gauge wire then you will be getting probably 50/50 wire to insulation and if you get 0 AWG wire you are getting 80/20 wire to insulation
What are some reputable names for wire?
i would return the wire if possible, one thing you dont wana cheat is wire, i found that out the hard way when i ran my battery to trunk with shitty cable and would get voltage drops on a 400watt amp, redid everything with good beefey wire i get about .1 or .2 volt drops of full tilt on 1000 watts still running stock 70amp alt
here is a good comparison of good vs bad wire
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from left to right, Rockford Fosgate 4AWG wire shitty caliber 0gauge wire and 0AWG Excelene welding wire
here is a good comparison of good vs bad wire
from left to right, Rockford Fosgate 4AWG wire shitty caliber 0gauge wire and 0AWG Excelene welding wire
Stinger HPM, Monster Powerflex, Kicker Hyperflex, Shok (OFC), Knu (OFC)...just to name a fewWhat are some reputable names for wire?
from my experience of looking and buying wire whenever i see just 0gauge its bad wire that is heavy jacketed and when i see 0AWG the wire is always much larger with less jacket, i was only going on my experience, if i am wrong that i stand corrected and thank you for the insightThis is 100% incorrect. 0 gauge and 0 AWG are the same thing. If you want to tell whether or not something is true 0 gauge/AWG, you have to measure the cross-sectional area of the conductor(s). 0 gauge/AWG is 53.5 mm^2 or ~0.083 in^2.
Good 1 awg car wire is actually bigger than they need to be to considered 1 awg. The lesser stuff is almost exactly what's needed to be considered 1 awg. They make it look beefier with a bigger jacket but they are at minimum 1 awg if marked so.from my experience of looking and buying wire whenever i see just 0gauge its bad wire that is heavy jacketed and when i see 0AWG the wire is always much larger with less jacket, i was only going on my experience, if i am wrong that i stand corrected and thank you for the insight
That definitely puts it perspective.. Thanks.i would return the wire if possible, one thing you dont wana cheat is wire, i found that out the hard way when i ran my battery to trunk with shitty cable and would get voltage drops on a 400watt amp, redid everything with good beefey wire i get about .1 or .2 volt drops of full tilt on 1000 watts still running stock 70amp alt
here is a good comparison of good vs bad wire
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from left to right, Rockford Fosgate 4AWG wire shitty caliber 0gauge wire and 0AWG Excelene welding wire
Just because it is heavy jacketed, doesn't make it bad wire. The Monster P400 I have has a big jacket, but still 0 gauge size conductor. What makes it bad wire is when a company advertises 0 gauge and it is 4 gauge worth of copper/CCA with 0 gauge insulation (jacket)...like the cheap one you showed in that picture you posted. There is a good chance that Bullz Audio wire is oxygen free copper, but it is probably only 4 gauge in size.from my experience of looking and buying wire whenever i see just 0gauge its bad wire that is heavy jacketed and when i see 0AWG the wire is always much larger with less jacket, i was only going on my experience, if i am wrong that i stand corrected and thank you for the insight
If it has a larger cross sectional area than true 0 gauge, it is probably to compensate for the added resistance of the CCA material.Good 1 awg car wire is actually bigger than they need to be to considered 1 awg. The lesser stuff is almost exactly what's needed to be considered 1 awg. They make it look beefier with a bigger jacket but they are at minimum 1 awg if marked so.
And it is actually 1/0 or "one aught", not 1 AWG.
Ok so how about the Stinger tripple 0 gauge? I was gonna do three runs of 0 gauge. So one run of this triple gauge should be sufficient right? Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/STINGER-TRIPLE-...094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e615bf416
Or am I just best off buying 3 runs of standard 0 gauge at 3.50 a ft?
Or am I just best off buying 3 runs of standard 0 gauge at 3.50 a ft?
What amps, batteries, and alternator are you running?Ok so how about the Stinger tripple 0 gauge? I was gonna do three runs of 0 gauge. So one run of this triple gauge should be sufficient right? Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/STINGER-TRIPLE-...094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e615bf416
Or am I just best off buying 3 runs of standard 0 gauge at 3.50 a ft?
What amps, batteries, and alternator are you running?
250 amp ho alt
4- Cadence ZRS-c65 amps fuse rating 120 amps ea/ 1200 watts
1 JL Audio amp 75w x 6 / fuse rating 60 amps
I have optima up front and will have 2 either stinger spv70's or optima yellow tops in the rear.
I like those stinger batts over the optima's...250 amp ho alt
4- Cadence ZRS-c65 amps fuse rating 120 amps ea/ 1200 watts
1 JL Audio amp 75w x 6 / fuse rating 60 amps
I have optima up front and will have 2 either stinger spv70's or optima yellow tops in the rear.
You'd be good with 1 run of the Stinger 3/0 or 3 runs of 1/0. Check out audiosavings.com for good deals on Monster P400 (Powerflex) OFC 1/0...~$2.20-2.40/ft
anybody tried the cadence wire? looks good and cheap but havent seen it in person yet!!
I actually almost got it but got the Bullz junk instead.. Wish Ida got that now.anybody tried the cadence wire? looks good and cheap but havent seen it in person yet!!
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