I feel like being all helpful and what not today. Soooo... what'cha got?
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T-Fade,
Is there anything you didn't like about the Clarion cz702? Got one fairly cheap and in fact brand new, hasn't been used and will be installing it soon in my s10. I made a thread about that and the Pioneer deh 80prs. I'll play around with it see how I like it.
Is there anything you didn't like about the Clarion cz702? Got one fairly cheap and in fact brand new, hasn't been used and will be installing it soon in my s10. I made a thread about that and the Pioneer deh 80prs. I'll play around with it see how I like it.
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Not that I know of. Doesn't get a whole lot better than XS anyway.
For daily... I like a mix of caps and batts. I do believe that would be worth it if you can swing it. If that's not an option... just batts.
Are there TSP available for them? If they're very similar, it shouldn't be a problem. If they're different, it definitely could be an issue.
I would buy a woofer tester and pull the specs if none are available. They're ~ $100 and money well spent. If you can't do that, maybe find someone local who may have one.
If none of that is possible, email Nick.
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I did get the chance to test the 1500.2. I'll post up the results shortly.
Ampere 7500. No sweat.
We talkin about subs or midwoofers?
Subs... why are you looking at (16) of them and why are they SVC?
But since you said "per channel", SVC and want to run 4 ohms... I'll assume you meant voice speakers.
(16) 4 ohm woofers on a 4 channel would be (4) woofers on each channel. Series each pair (4+4). Parallel pairs to each channel (8/2) to 4 ohm. Easy peasy.
If it's subs... that's gonna be a mess. I would recommend multiple amps.
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2 sets of parallel (8) would be .5 each set and series to 1 ohm.
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In general... yes. Lower is better. But not always.
.707 (Butterworth) is considered "ideal" by most as it's sort of the best compromise of transient response and amplitude. Others prefer .577 (Bessel) and trade output for better transient response.
Sealed enclosures exhibit a 2nd order (-12dB) rolloff. Coincidentally, the cabin gain in most passenger vehicles exhibit a +12dB per octave gain starting ~ 80hz (depending). So if the Fcb is lower... you could get an undesirable bump in the response. Or maybe that bump is desirable. depends on the design goals and your particular challenges. Point is that a sealed box all on its own (with cabin gain) *should* net a maximally flat response in the car.
But maybe you know all of this already and that's why you're using a sealed box. So... long story short... anything under Qtc - 1 and you should be good. Anything past that and it's gonna get "boomy".
Lastly... music taste really shouldn't play into it. Your enclosure should be able to play anything. The only exception are those who might want a big ripple in the response (for whatever reason). But as with anything, there is a tradeoff. We trade bandwidth for output and vice versa.
Out of the ones you've listed... I'd probably go with the Alpine.
Various responses for your consideration.
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If you're serious about hairtricks... wall.
If you want to be matchy matchy, get a pair of Ampere 4.0 18's and get to work. Otherwise, a really beefy 3" coil like the DSS Ethos would be a great match for that amp. But there are a lot of great options in that power range. Sundown Z's come to mind. SSA Evils move a ton of air. It really just comes down to whom you want to rep.
Invisible screen in the daylight. For the price though... that's about the only flaw I could find with it. Browsing through folders wasn't all that great either, but then again... nobody does it quite as well as the 80prs.
It's a beast of a deck for the money. I can't believe they discontinued it.
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Toss the Evils out. Not that they aren't a good sub. Just outmatched in this comparison.
So that leaves the Ethos and Z's.
Matching gear is always nice. And the Sundown is a beast. But power compression is a bitch and you have some good power there.
I'd go with the extra coils and the infinitesimal cone area advantage and get the Ethos.
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What would be better in a daily setup with occasional db drag bass racing at shows.... 40ah juicebox lithium with 3 northstar G31s or 6 banks of caps with 3 northstar G31s....alt is a 320amp DC power amp is a 8.0 TFE at .5
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Hmm... both would be awesome. That's tough.
My knee jerk reaction is to say the lithium, but (3) G31 and (6) banks would be pretty solid.
Shit.
*I* would probably take the lithium. But you can't go wrong either way.
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I'm currently running the juice box with the 3 G31s but was hashing over going with caps if there was a benefit with one over the other ,so looks like I'll stick with what I got thanks...
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Is this sub the good ol xbl 04-05 RE XXX? Whats a good price to pay for it ?
Yea $250 is the highest I'd pay.
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Ok tfade here's my situation I have an 06 tahoe and I'm seriously on the fence for my next move. I'm trying to achieve something maybe far fetched but hey why not. I want to sound good in this while process as well, but I'm attempting to try to go for a no wall below window line build either using 6 12s or 6 15s I'm scared with the 15s I might not have enough room to properly give them so which one of these set up do you suggest I try for knowing I'm going for something that will musical and Meter around 156-158 sealed.
1) 6 xsv3 12s (crossfire) on two m4a's gain matched at .67 each
2) 6 xsv3 15s (crossfire) on two xs8k's 1ohm daily and .25 burps
3) 6 12" evils on 3 m4a's gain matched at .5 each
Keep in my my max dimensions for my cargo area
Is 49.5 width x 22" height x 36.5" depth
1) 6 xsv3 12s (crossfire) on two m4a's gain matched at .67 each
2) 6 xsv3 15s (crossfire) on two xs8k's 1ohm daily and .25 burps
3) 6 12" evils on 3 m4a's gain matched at .5 each
Keep in my my max dimensions for my cargo area
Is 49.5 width x 22" height x 36.5" depth
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How come the evils get 3 amps and the others only get two? I'd pick option 3 because all woofers are nice options but it's the most power. Seems like a no brainier. More power= more bass
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Yea he wants 250 for it. Are they good for SQ or SQL?
Tfade What are the pros and cons of Walling my car? I have a pair of LF 12s on 2k right now and i Was thinking of upgrading to a pair of zv5s 12" and a 5k amp.Im going to upgrade my electrical so im going to spend a decente amount of $.Now i got this idea of getting a pair of 18s zv5s since im going to spend the same on electrical why not spend another 500-800 on getting the 18s and wood and be louder with the Wall?
Tfade What are the pros and cons of Walling my car? I have a pair of LF 12s on 2k right now and i Was thinking of upgrading to a pair of zv5s 12" and a 5k amp.Im going to upgrade my electrical so im going to spend a decente amount of $.Now i got this idea of getting a pair of 18s zv5s since im going to spend the same on electrical why not spend another 500-800 on getting the 18s and wood and be louder with the Wall?
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I have to go with the SA's there.
Umm... yeah!
Not sure on market value. Don't see them around much, but looks like the reply below yours is a good reference.
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You don't have room for 15's.
I assume the Evils get more power because they're a 4" coil? I have to assume the added power is going to win out there. So if those are your choices... I'd do the Evils and (3) amps.
Should be a beast setup.
SQL.
Walling is a big decision. It's tough to say exactly how much of a gain it's worth in a comparable setup. But what it does is open up more options for bigger or more subs, as you mentioned.
If I had to hazard a guess as to (2) 12's no wall vs (2) 18's in a wall... it's probably +6dB. At least.
The cons are... it turns into a two seat ass hauler dedicated music vehicle. If you're ok with that... get to work.
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